From gwen at nocog.org Thu May 1 00:17:58 2003 From: gwen at nocog.org (Gwen) Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 00:17:58 -0400 Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] Minutes from last night] Message-ID: <3EB09FF6.7020307@nocog.org> Hey, Leslie sent this to me, but there's nothing person so I dont think there'd be a problem with forwarding it on.... Does anyone have any thoughts on these locations? G -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] Minutes from last night Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 00:12:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Leslie McWhinnie To: Gwen Dear Gwen, Did anyone try contacting La Nouvelle Scene theatre or the GCTC theatre? There are also other theatre performance rooms at Arts Court besides the SAW Gallery. What about the University of Ottawa Tabaret Hall? You might be able to get a student or a professor to book the room for no charge. As for names how about Ottawa Outaouais Students for Peace Ottawa Outaouais etudiants pour la paix ! Leslie oocg ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- http://gwen.nocog.org "The past didn't go anywhere" -Utah Phillips From lmcwhinnie at yahoo.ca Thu May 1 19:26:45 2003 From: lmcwhinnie at yahoo.ca (Leslie McWhinnie) Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 19:26:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Fwd: Fw: URGENT ACTION ALERT: STOP CANADA JOINING "STAR WARS II" !! Message-ID: <20030501232645.56907.qmail@web41507.mail.yahoo.com> --0-544569113-1051831605=:56223 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Id: Content-Disposition: inline To all Ottawa Outaouais Students Etudiants Against Contre the War la Guerre, You might wish to consider some letter writing and phone call campaigns as suggested by the following attached postings. Leslie Note: forwarded message attached. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca --0-544569113-1051831605=:56223 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "alma norman" Subject: Fw: URGENT ACTION ALERT: STOP CANADA JOINING "STAR WARS II" !! Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 03:31:28 -0400 Size: 7207 Url: http://lists.cupe.ca/pipermail/oosaw-eoocg/attachments/20030501/b6288a95/attachment.eml --0-544569113-1051831605=:56223-- From gwen at nocog.org Thu May 1 20:58:17 2003 From: gwen at nocog.org (Gwen) Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 20:58:17 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] [Fwd: [Aca-list] Anti-War Roundtable III] Message-ID: <3EB1C2A9.80403@nocog.org> Hey, I've never been to one of these so I don't know what they're like, and I frankly doubt their effectiveness (although I have nothing with which to back that up). I thought maybe someone might be interested, nonetheless. Gwen -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Aca-list] Anti-War Roundtable III Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 19:28:35 +0100 (BST) From: osez linda To: aca-list at lists.mutualaid.org *********************** ANTI-WAR ROUNDTABLE III *********************** The Jurisprudence Center, Department of Law, Carleton University is pleased to present the third in a series of Anti-War Roundtables on May 7th, 2003, noon, Loeb Building 602. Everyone is welcome! ANTI-WAR ROUNDTABLE III: American Empire and the Wars in the Middle East with Leo Panitch and John H. Sigler. Leo Panitch is Canada Research Chair in Comparative Political Economy and Distinguished Research Professor in the Department of Political Science at York University, Toronto. He is the editor of the Socialist Register and an expert on state theor, American empire and globalization. John Sigler is Adjunct Professor in the Department of Political Science at Carleton University, specializing in Middle East politcs, U.S. foreign policy and international relations. Professor Sigler is a frequent media commentator on the Middle East and international affairs, former director of the Norm Paterson School of International Affairs, Carleton University. For sometime has was a strategic analyst in the Eisenhower administration. Please post and distribute widely! __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer _______________________________________________ Aca-list mailing list Aca-list at lists.mutualaid.org http://lists.mutualaid.org/mailman/listinfo/aca-list free hosting provided by http://www.mutualaid.org/ -- http://gwen.nocog.org "The past didn't go anywhere" -Utah Phillips From kskerrett at cupe.ca Thu May 1 19:59:06 2003 From: kskerrett at cupe.ca (Kevin Skerrett) Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 19:59:06 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Ottawa-Outaouais Social Forum - begins in 24 hrs...City Hall...then Ottawa U for the weekend...(check-in at University Centre) Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3103D.A6062B5C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 (message fran=E7ais suit)=20 =20 OTTAWA-OUTAOUAIS SOCIAL FORUM WEEKEND SCHEDULE =20 =20 Friday, May 2nd Opening Night Celebration, Ottawa City Hall =20 6:00 to 7:00 pm =96 Book launch for =93Another World is Possible=94 with = co-editor Thomas Ponniah and introduction by Judy Rebick. =20 6:00 to 10:00 pm =96 Refreshments, display tables, food fair =20 7:00 to 8:30 pm =96 Opening panel discussion =AB From Local to Global: = A Panorama of social movements, communities, and struggles =BB featuring = =85 =20 Judy Rebick, writer and political commentator Elder William, Commanda Algonquin First Nations Terri Brown, President, Native Women=92s Association of Canada Cliff Summers, Odawa Native Friendship Centre Muna Deria, Muslim Students=92 Association Alvaro Vargas, Alt=E9rnatives =20 Moderator: Pam Kapoor =20 8:30 to 10:00 pm -- An eclectic line-up of musicians, dancers and = entertainers =20 =AD=AD =20 =20 Saturday, May 3rd=20 =20 8:30 am to 6:15 pm -- OOSF Check-In table plus Information Fair = Promenade, University Centre (Jock-Turcot Building), U of O =20 9:00 am to 12:15 pm -- Workshops Block 1 =96 various locations, U of O =20 12:15 to 1:15 pm =96 Break (various cultural activities across U of O) =20 1:15 to 2:45 pm -- Panel Discussions =20 #1 =96 =93Kicking up a Storm: Confronting the ridiculously regressive = conservative agenda with cunningly creative & courageous acts=94 Room C03, Colonel By Building, U of O Featuring: Sue Rab =96 Local president of the Ontario Secondary School Teachers=92 = Federation. Sherrie Tingley =96 Local anti-poverty activist with the Somerset West = Action Network. Marlene Riviere =96 President of her local affiliate of the Ontario = Public Service Employees Union; a care worker fighting for better access = to more services. Allan Shain =96 Disability rights activist and comedian. =20 #2 =96 =93What=92s a Social Forum Anyway? Discussing the social forum = as a concept, model and tool for change=94 Council Chambers, Ottawa City Hall Featuring: Thomas Ponniah =96 Co-editor of Another World is Possible =96 Popular = Alternatives to Globalization at the World Social Forum. Janet Conway =96 Professor, activist and educator within ecumenical = social justice networks, one of the organizers of last month=92s Toronto = Social Forum. Clive Doucet =96 An Ottawa city councilor and proponent of participatory = budgeting as a community democratizing initiative.=20 Nancy Burrows =96 International Liaison with the World March of Women = International Secretariat. =20 3:00 to 6:15 pm -- Workshops Block 2 =96 various locations, U of O =20 7:00 to 10:00 pm -- Open mic night, entertainment and speakeasy, Caf=E9 = Alternatif, Simard Hall, U of O =20 =AD=AD =20 =20 Sunday, May 4th=20 =20 9:00 am to 1:00 pm -- OOSF Check-In table plus Information Fair = Promenade, University Centre (Jock-Turcot Building), U of O =20 9:30 to 11:00 am -- Workshops Block 3 =96 various locations, U of O =20 11:15 am to 12:15 pm -- Closing Plenary =96 =93Springing Forward: = Building on the OOSF momentum=94=20 Alumni Theatre, University Centre (Jock-Turcot Building), U of O =20 12:15 to 1:15 pm -- Break =20 1:15 to 5:15 pm -- Open Space Dialogue - =93Fostering peace in our = communities =85 towards a peaceful world=94 Alumni Theatre, University Centre (Jock-Turcot Building), U of O =20 FORUM SOCIAL OTTAWA-OUTAOUAIS HORAIRE DU WEEK-END =20 Le vendredi 2 mai C=E9l=E9bration de la soir=E9e d=92ouverture, H=F4tel de ville = d=92Ottawa =20 De 18 h =E0 19 h - Lancement du livre =AB Another World is = Possible =BB avec le cor=E9dacteur Thomas Ponniah, mot de pr=E9sentation = de Judy Rebick =20 De 18 h =E0 22 h -Rafra=EEchissements, tables d=92exposition et = foire alimentaire =20 De 19 h =E0 20 h 30 -Table ronde de la soir=E9e d=92ouverture =AB Ici = comme ailleurs dans le monde : Un panorama des mouvements sociaux, des = communaut=E9s et des luttes =BB avec=85 =20 Judy Rebick, auteure et commentatrice politique Grand P=E8re William Commanda, Premi=E8res nations algonquines Terri Brown, Pr=E9sidente, Association des femmes autochtones du Canada Cliff Summers, Centre d=92amiti=E9 autochtone Odawa Muna Deria, Association des =E9tudiantes et =E9tudiants musulmans Alvaro Vargas, Alt=E9rnatives =20 Mod=E9ratrice : Pam Kapoor =20 =20 De 20 h 30 =E0 22 h -- Une brochette =E9clectique de musiciens, de = danseurs et d=92artistes=20 =20 Le samedi 3 mai=20 =20 De 8 h 30 =E0 18 h 15 --Table d=92inscription au FSOO et foire = d=92information Promenade, Centre universitaire (Immeuble Jock-Turcot), = U d=92O =20 De 9 h =E0 12 h 15 -- Ateliers Bloc 1 =96 divers endroits, U d=92O =20 De 12 h 15 =E0 13 h 15 -- Pause =96 (diverses activit=E9s culturelles = partout =E0 l=92U d=92O) =20 De 13 h 15 =E0 14 h 45 -- Tables rondes =20 #1 - =AB On fait bouger les choses : Le programme conservateur = ridiculement r=E9gressif confront=E9 =E0 des gestes astucieusement = cr=E9atifs et courageux =BB Pi=E8ce C03, Pavillon Colonel By, U d=92O Participants : Sue Rab =96 Pr=E9sidente locale de la F=E9d=E9ration des = enseignantes-enseignants des =E9coles secondaires de l=92Ontario Sherrie Tingley =96 Activiste anti-pauvret=E9 locale avec le Somerset = West Action Network Marlene Riviere =96 Pr=E9sidente de sa section locale du Syndicat des = employ=E9s et employ=E9es de la fonction publique de l=92Ontario; = travailleuse de la sant=E9 qui lutte pour un meilleur acc=E8s =E0 des = services plus nombreux Alan Shain - Monologuiste comique et activiste pour les handicap=E9s =20 #2 =96 =AB Qu=92est-ce qu=92un Forum social finalement? Discussion sur = le forum social comme concept, mod=E8le et outil de changement =BB Salle du Conseil, H=F4tel de ville d=92Ottawa Participants : Thomas Ponniah =96 Cor=E9dacteur de Another World is Possible =96 = Popular Alternatives to Globalization at the World Social Forum. Janet Conway =96 Professeure, activiste et =E9ducatrice au sein de = r=E9seaux de justice sociale oecum=E9nique, Janet est l=92une des = organisatrices du Forum social de Toronto qui a eu lieu le mois dernier. Clive Doucet =96 Conseiller municipal de la ville d=92Ottawa, = d=E9fenseur de la budg=E9tisation participative comme initiative = communautaire d=E9mocratisante. =20 Nancy Burrows - Agente de liaison internationale aupr=E8s du = Secr=E9tariat international de la Marche mondiale des femmes.=20 =20 =20 De 15 h =E0 18 h 15 --Ateliers Bloc 2 =96 divers endroits, U d=92O =20 De 19 h =E0 22 h -- Soir=E9e micro ouvert =96 divertissement et = discussion anim=E9e, Caf=E9 Alternatif, Pavillon Simard, U d=92O =20 Le dimanche 4 mai=20 =20 De 9 h =E0 13 h -- Table d=92inscription au FSOO et foire = d=92information Promenade, Centre universitaire (Pavillon Jock-Turcot), = U d=92O =20 De 9 h 30 =E0 11 h --Ateliers Bloc 3 =96 divers endroits, U d=92O =20 De 11 h 15 =E0 12 h 15 -- S=E9ance pl=E9ni=E8re - =AB Allons de = l=92avant : Profitons de l=92=E9lan donn=E9 par le FSOO =BB Auditorium = des anciens, Centre universitaire (Pavillon Jock-Turcot), U d=92O =20 De 12 h 15 =E0 13 h 15 -- Pause=20 =20 De 13 h 15 =E0 17 h 15 -- Forum ouvert =96 =AB Pour que = r=E8gne la paix dans nos communaut=E9s=85et dans le monde =BB Auditorium des anciens, Centre universitaire (Pavillon Jock-Turcot), U = d=92O =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3103D.A6062B5C Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

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 OTTAWA-OUTAOUAIS SOCIAL=20 FORUM

WEEKEND=20 SCHEDULE

 

 

Friday,=20 May 2nd

Opening Night Celebration, Ottawa City = Hall

 

6:00 to 7:00 pm =96 Book launch for =93Another = World is=20 Possible=94 with co-editor Thomas Ponniah and introduction by Judy=20 Rebick.

 

6:00=20 to 10:00 pm =96 Refreshments, display tables, food = fair

 

7:00=20 to 8:30 pm =96 Opening panel discussion =AB From=20 Local to Global:  A = Panorama of=20 social movements, communities, and struggles =BB featuring =85

 

Judy=20 Rebick, writer and political commentator

Elder=20 William, Commanda Algonquin First Nations

Terri=20 Brown, President, Native Women=92s Association of = Canada

Cliff=20 Summers, Odawa Native Friendship Centre

Muna=20 Deria, Muslim Students=92 Association

Alvaro=20 Vargas, Alt=E9rnatives

 

Moderator:  Pam = Kapoor

 

8:30=20 to 10:00 pm -- An eclectic line-up of musicians, dancers and=20 entertainers

 

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Saturday,=20 May 3rd

 

8:30=20 am to 6:15 pm -- OOSF Check-In table plus Information Fair Promenade, = University=20 Centre (Jock-Turcot Building), U of O

 

9:00=20 am to 12:15 pm -- Workshops Block 1 =96 various locations, U of=20 O

 

12:15=20 to 1:15 pm =96 Break (various cultural activities across U of=20 O)

 

1:15=20 to 2:45 pm -- Panel Discussions

 

#1=20 =96 =93Kicking=20 up a Storm:  Confronting = the=20 ridiculously regressive conservative agenda with cunningly creative = &=20 courageous acts=94

Room=20 C03, Colonel By Building, U of O

Featuring:

Sue=20 Rab =96 Local president of the Ontario Secondary School Teachers=92=20 Federation.

Sherrie=20 Tingley =96 Local anti-poverty activist with the Somerset West Action=20 Network.

Marlene=20 Riviere =96 President of her local affiliate of the Ontario Public = Service=20 Employees Union; a care worker fighting for better access to more=20 services.

Allan=20 Shain =96 Disability rights activist and comedian.

 

#2=20 =96 =93What=92s a Social Forum Anyway? =20 Discussing=20 the social forum as a concept, model and tool for=20 change=94

Council=20 Chambers, Ottawa City Hall

Featuring:

Thomas=20 Ponniah =96 Co-editor of Another World is Possible =96 Popular = Alternatives to=20 Globalization at the World Social Forum.

Janet=20 Conway =96 Professor, activist and educator within ecumenical social = justice=20 networks, one of the organizers of last month=92s Toronto Social=20 Forum.

Clive=20 Doucet =96 An Ottawa city councilor and proponent of participatory = budgeting as a=20 community democratizing initiative.

Nancy=20 Burrows =96 International Liaison with the World March of Women = International=20 Secretariat.

 

3:00=20 to 6:15 pm -- Workshops Block 2 =96 various locations, U of=20 O

 

7:00=20 to 10:00 pm -- Open mic night, entertainment and speakeasy, Caf=E9 = Alternatif,=20 Simard Hall, U of O

 

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Sunday,=20 May 4th

 

9:00=20 am to 1:00 pm -- OOSF Check-In table plus Information Fair Promenade, = University=20 Centre (Jock-Turcot Building), U of O

 

9:30=20 to 11:00 am -- Workshops Block 3 =96 various locations, U of=20 O

 

11:15=20 am to 12:15 pm -- Closing Plenary =96 =93Springing=20 Forward:  Building on the = OOSF=20 momentum=94

Alumni=20 Theatre, University Centre (Jock-Turcot Building), U of = O

 

12:15=20 to 1:15 pm -- Break

 

1:15 to=20 5:15 pm -- Open Space Dialogue - =93Fostering peace in our communities = =85 towards a=20 peaceful world=94

Alumni=20 Theatre, University Centre (Jock-Turcot Building), U of = O

 

FORUM=20 SOCIAL OTTAWA-OUTAOUAIS

HORAIRE DU=20 WEEK-END

 

Le=20 vendredi 2 mai

C=E9l=E9bration de la soir=E9e d=92ouverture, H=F4tel de ville=20 d=92Ottawa

 

De=20 18 h =E0 19 h         =20 - Lancement du livre  = =AB=20 Another World is Possible =BB avec le cor=E9dacteur Thomas Ponniah, mot = de=20 pr=E9sentation de Judy Rebick

 

De=20 18 h =E0 22 h         =20 -Rafra=EEchissements, tables d=92exposition et foire=20 alimentaire

 

De=20 19 h =E0 20 h 30 -Table ronde de la soir=E9e = d=92ouverture=20 =AB Ici=20 comme ailleurs dans le monde : Un panorama des mouvements sociaux, des=20 communaut=E9s et des luttes =BB avec=85

 

Judy=20 Rebick, auteure et commentatrice politique

Grand=20 P=E8re William Commanda, Premi=E8res nations = algonquines

Terri=20 Brown, Pr=E9sidente, Association des femmes autochtones du=20 Canada

Cliff=20 Summers, Centre d=92amiti=E9 autochtone Odawa

Muna=20 Deria, Association des =E9tudiantes et =E9tudiants = musulmans

Alvaro=20 Vargas, Alt=E9rnatives

 

Mod=E9ratrice :=20 Pam Kapoor

           =20            =20            =20

 

De=20 20 h 30 =E0 22 h -- Une brochette =E9clectique de musiciens, de danseurs = et=20 d=92artistes

 

Le=20 samedi 3 mai

 

De=20 8 h 30 =E0 18 h 15 --Table d=92inscription au FSOO et foire = d=92information=20 Promenade, Centre universitaire (Immeuble Jock-Turcot), U=20 d=92O

 

De=20 9 h =E0 12 h 15 -- Ateliers Bloc 1 =96 divers endroits, U = d=92O

 

De=20 12 h 15  =E0 13 h 15 -- = Pause =96=20 (diverses activit=E9s culturelles partout =E0 l=92U = d=92O)

 

De=20 13 h 15 =E0 14 h 45 --           =20 Tables rondes

 

#1=20 -  =AB On fait bouger les=20 choses : Le programme conservateur ridiculement r=E9gressif = confront=E9 =E0 des=20 gestes astucieusement cr=E9atifs et courageux =BB

Pi=E8ce=20 C03, Pavillon Colonel By, U d=92O

Participants :

Sue=20 Rab =96 Pr=E9sidente=20 locale de la F=E9d=E9ration des enseignantes-enseignants des =E9coles = secondaires de=20 l=92Ontario

Sherrie=20 Tingley =96 Activiste=20 anti-pauvret=E9 locale avec le Somerset West Action Network

Marlene=20 Riviere =96 Pr=E9sidente=20 de sa section locale du Syndicat des employ=E9s et employ=E9es de la = fonction=20 publique de l=92Ontario; travailleuse de la sant=E9 qui lutte pour un = meilleur acc=E8s=20 =E0 des services plus nombreux

Alan=20 Shain - Monologuiste=20 comique et activiste pour les handicap=E9s

 

#2 =96 =AB=20 Qu=92est-ce qu=92un Forum social finalement? Discussion sur le forum = social comme=20 concept, mod=E8le et outil de changement =BB

Salle=20 du Conseil, H=F4tel de ville d=92Ottawa

Participants :

Thomas=20 Ponniah =96 Cor=E9dacteur=20 de Another World is Possible =96 Popular Alternatives to = Globalization at the=20 World Social Forum.

Janet=20 Conway =96  Professeure, activiste et = =E9ducatrice au=20 sein de r=E9seaux de justice sociale oecum=E9nique, Janet  est l=92une des organisatrices = du Forum=20 social de Toronto qui a eu lieu le mois dernier.

Clive=20 Doucet =96=20 Conseiller municipal de la ville d=92Ottawa, d=E9fenseur de la = budg=E9tisation=20 participative comme initiative communautaire d=E9mocratisante. 

Nancy=20 Burrows -=20 Agente de liaison internationale aupr=E8s du Secr=E9tariat international = de la=20 Marche mondiale des femmes.

 

 

De=20 15 h =E0 18 h 15 --Ateliers Bloc 2 =96 divers endroits, U = d=92O

 

De=20 19 h =E0 22 h         =20 -- Soir=E9e micro ouvert =96 divertissement et discussion = anim=E9e, Caf=E9=20 Alternatif, Pavillon Simard, U d=92O

 

Le=20 dimanche 4 mai

 

De=20 9 h =E0 13 h -- Table d=92inscription au FSOO et foire = d=92information=20 Promenade, Centre universitaire (Pavillon Jock-Turcot), U=20 d=92O

 

De=20 9 h 30 =E0 11 h --Ateliers Bloc 3 =96 divers endroits, U = d=92O

 

De=20 11 h 15 =E0 12 h 15 -- S=E9ance pl=E9ni=E8re - =AB Allons=20 de l=92avant :  Profitons = de l=92=E9lan=20 donn=E9 par le FSOO =BB=20 Auditorium=20 des anciens, Centre universitaire (Pavillon Jock-Turcot), U=20 d=92O

 

De=20 12 h 15 =E0 13 h 15 --           =20 Pause

 

De=20 13 h 15 =E0 17 h 15 --           =20 Forum ouvert =96 =AB Pour que r=E8gne la paix dans nos = communaut=E9s=85et dans=20 le monde =BB

Auditorium=20 des anciens, Centre universitaire (Pavillon Jock-Turcot), U=20 d=92O

 

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01C3103D.A6062B5C-- From deforgeo_thinking at hotmail.com Sun May 4 09:29:06 2003 From: deforgeo_thinking at hotmail.com (Michael DeForge) Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 09:29:06 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Peace Concert Callout Draft Message-ID: Draft for the callout (alot of question marks for information I don't have the details on.) First time writing one of these things. Sorry it took so long for me to put together, busier week than I expected. ------------- OTTAWA PEACE CONCERT WHERE: (insert venue here) WHEN: Sunday, June 1st (?) WHAT: A benefit concert for the victims of the War in Iraq, featuring musicians and writers from high schools in the Ottawa-Gatineau region. FOR MORE INFORMATION: (insert e-mail and phone number here) On June 1st (?), the Ottawa-Outaouais Students Against War group will be organizing a Peace Concert at (insert venue here.) The concert's goal is to: -Promote the constantly growing anti-war movement in Ottawa. -To do what we can to help rebuild a war-torn Iraq. All proceeds of the concert go to (insert charity/charities here,) which is why a minimum donation of (insert amount of money here) is required at the door. -Showcase promising local musicians, poets and artists. If you wish to participate in the concert, auditions will be held on MAY 16th, 5:30 PM at the HILLCREST HIGH SCHOOL AUDITORIUM. To book an audition, e-mail lollipopcrystal_2025 at hotmail.com with the time you want to perform, what you plan to perform, equipment you may need, a contact number, and what name you or your group will be auditioning under. All types of musicians, dancers, artists and writers are welcome. PLEASE, RSVP BEFORE MAY 13th, OR YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SECURE AN AUDITION TIME. ----------------------- Is all that good? _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From gwen at nocog.org Sun May 4 10:09:05 2003 From: gwen at nocog.org (Gwen) Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 10:09:05 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Peace Concert Callout Draft In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EB51F01.9040305@nocog.org> That's really good. I tihnk it'll be important to have some blurb about who OOSAW is, but obviously you can't but that in yet. Also, as Kevin pointed out, the group *does* have an e-mail address (auntie_guerre at yahoo.com(or .ca?)), and I think we should use that. G Michael DeForge wrote: > Draft for the callout (alot of question marks for information I don't > have the details on.) First time writing one of these things. Sorry it > took so long for me to put together, busier week than I expected. -- http://gwen.nocog.org "The past didn't go anywhere" -Utah Phillips From alexrobinson at rogers.com Sun May 4 11:02:03 2003 From: alexrobinson at rogers.com (Alex Robinson) Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 11:02:03 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Peace Concert Message-ID: <001a01c3124e$200eb650$6401a8c0@Alex> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C3122C.985898F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable May I suggest that the concert be on the 31st of May (Saturday) to = attract a bigger audience... also here are a few charities that we may = consider giving the money to: -Human Rights Watch weblink: http://www.hrw.org -Doctors Without Borders http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/=20 -Food Not Bombs=20 http://www.foodnotbombs.net/ -Oxfam http://www.oxfam.org/eng/ -Save The Children http://www.savethechildren.org -Alex ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C3122C.985898F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
May I suggest that the concert be on = the 31st of=20 May (Saturday) to attract a bigger audience... also here are a few = charities=20 that we may consider giving the money to:
 
 
-Human Rights Watch
weblink: http://www.hrw.org

-Doctors=20 Without Borders http://www.doctorswithoutb= orders.org/=20
 
-Food Not Bombs=20
http://www.foodnotbombs.net/
 
-Oxfam
http://www.oxfam.org/eng/
 
-Save The=20 Children
http://www.savethechildren.org
 
 
-Alex
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C3122C.985898F0-- From kheyrta at hotmail.com Sun May 4 12:13:04 2003 From: kheyrta at hotmail.com (kheyrta mohamed) Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 12:13:04 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] charities Message-ID: another great charity to consider for the concert donations: www.warchild.ca _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From tina_windsor at isic.org Sun May 4 14:37:16 2003 From: tina_windsor at isic.org (tina_windsor at isic.org) Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 18:37:16 +0000 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] re: charities Message-ID: <1052073436.3eb55ddc45fc5@www.isiconnect.ekit.com> War child released a cd not too long ago and they are having good success with that, so i think it would be more benifitial to give to the other organizations, not that war child isn't awesome anyway. ----- Forwarded message from kheyrta mohamed ----- Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 12:13:04 -0400 From: kheyrta mohamed Reply-To: kheyrta mohamed Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] charities To: oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca another great charity to consider for the concert donations: www.warchild.ca __________________________________________________ _______________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _______________________________________________ Oosaw-eoocg mailing list Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg ----- End forwarded message ----- ____________________________________________________________________ ISIConnect - the global phonecard with more! Keeping you in touch at home and around the world. Visit http://www.isic.org for details. From lmcwhinnie at yahoo.ca Mon May 5 01:24:11 2003 From: lmcwhinnie at yahoo.ca (Leslie McWhinnie) Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 01:24:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Peace Concert In-Reply-To: <001a01c3124e$200eb650$6401a8c0@Alex> Message-ID: <20030505052411.14350.qmail@web41511.mail.yahoo.com> Dear All, Have you considered making donations to the International Red Cross Red Crescent societies? They are working in Iraq on the ground as you are presently reading this note! This is a very old organization with a solid international reputation. Leslie ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca From funkysilverstar_ at hotmail.com Mon May 5 21:19:08 2003 From: funkysilverstar_ at hotmail.com (* Leslie *) Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 18:19:08 -0700 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] meeting? Message-ID:

hey,

i was just wondering when the next meeting is. if anyone knows or would like to plan one could someone plz write back. thanx.

-Leslie

 



MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* From gwen at nocog.org Mon May 5 22:42:44 2003 From: gwen at nocog.org (Gwen) Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 22:42:44 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] meeting? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EB72124.4090208@nocog.org> Hey, I don't know when the meeting is. I was thinking, though, if there are issues with booking board rooms or whatever, that the weather is nice enough now we could start holding meetings in parks. We could have potluck dinners. It would be cool. I don't know if that idea appeals at all to anyone. I don't know centertown parks very well so I don't know excatly where would be best. Gwen * Leslie * wrote: > hey, > > i was just wondering when the next meeting is. if anyone knows or would > like to plan one could someone plz write back. thanx. -- "So raise your hands in the air like you're born again But make a fist for the struggle we was born to win" -The Coup ft. Dead Prez, Get Up! From digitalerica at rogers.com Mon May 5 22:48:11 2003 From: digitalerica at rogers.com (Erica Woolley) Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 22:48:11 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Iraq rebuilding company has ties to Bin Laden Message-ID: <003001c31379$ef05a140$8213c018@slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C31358.67B0DDC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bechtel tied to bin Ladens=20 =20 Osama bin Laden family members invested $10M in an equity fund run = by former Bechtel unit. May 5, 2003: 2:17 PM EDT=20 =20 NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - The Bush administration launched a war on = terror because of the alleged acts of Osama bin Laden. Ironically, one = of the companies the administration has picked to rebuild Iraq after the = latest phase of that war has ties to bin Laden's family, according to a = published report.=20 Bechtel Corp., a private construction firm based in San Francisco, = recently was awarded a State Department contract, potentially worth more = than $600 million, to help rebuild Iraq's infrastructure after the = recent U.S.-led war there.=20 The Bush administration pushed for that war, in part, because it = said the regime of Saddam Hussein, former leader of Iraq, had ties to = the al Qaeda terror network, headed by bin Laden, the group allegedly = responsible for the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks in the United = States.=20 According to an article in the May 5 issue of New Yorker magazine, = several bin Laden family members -- part of a large, Saudi Arabian = family that made a fortune in the construction business -- invested = about $10 million in a private equity fund operated by former subsidiary = of Bechtel before Sept. 11.=20 Fremont Group, a San Francisco-based private investment firm, once = was a unit of Bechtel, and its board still includes Bechtel CEO Riley P. = Bechtel and former U.S. Secretary of State and former Bechtel President = George P. Shultz, along with several current Bechtel directors.=20 Bechtel could not be reached for comment.=20 Fremont spokeswoman Pat Harden confirmed bin Laden's family had = invested $10 million in a Fremont fund, but she said the family had no = ownership stake in Fremont and its investment was made "well before the = events of Sept. 11."=20 "Our concern is that it be clear they're investors, like many, in = one of our many private equity funds," Harden said, noting that the = Patriot Act of 2001 requires such investors to be screened for = connections to terrorism. "This is all totally legal and above-board."=20 Harden didn't know exactly when bin Laden's family invested in the = equity fund. Fremont general counsel Rick Kopf told the New Yorker bin = Laden's family had invested nothing in Fremont since Sept. 11.=20 None of bin Laden's family members has been charged with any = crimes, and the family denounced Osama bin Laden in the mid-1990s. Some = family members also have publicly denounced the Sept. 11 attacks.=20 Saying they feared for their safety, about two dozen family = members living in the United States left the country as soon as airports = re-opened after Sept. 11 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C31358.67B0DDC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - The Bush administration launched a = war on=20 terror because of the alleged acts of Osama bin Laden. Ironically, = one of=20 the companies the administration has picked to rebuild Iraq after = the=20 latest phase of that war has ties to bin Laden's family, according = to a=20 published report.

Bechtel Corp., a private construction firm based in San = Francisco,=20 recently was awarded a State Department contract, potentially = worth more=20 than $600 million, to help rebuild Iraq's infrastructure after the = recent=20 U.S.-led war there.

The Bush administration pushed for that war, in part, because = it said=20 the regime of Saddam Hussein, former leader of Iraq, had ties to = the al=20 Qaeda terror network, headed by bin Laden, the group allegedly = responsible=20 for the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks in the United States. =

According to an article in the May 5 issue of New Yorker = magazine, several bin Laden family members -- part of a large, = Saudi=20 Arabian family that made a fortune in the construction business -- = invested about $10 million in a private equity fund operated by = former=20 subsidiary of Bechtel before Sept. 11.

Fremont Group, a San Francisco-based private investment firm, = once was=20 a unit of Bechtel, and its board still includes Bechtel CEO Riley = P.=20 Bechtel and former U.S. Secretary of State and former Bechtel = President=20 George P. Shultz, along with several current Bechtel directors. =

Bechtel could not be reached for comment.

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------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C31358.67B0DDC0-- From shahnaz_mouhamou at hotmail.com Mon May 5 23:18:52 2003 From: shahnaz_mouhamou at hotmail.com (Shahnaz Mouhamou) Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 23:18:52 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] are we having a meeting???? Message-ID: hey guys..i assumed we were having a meeting on tuesday but ....there have been no emails or nething...so are we still meeting?...we really need 2...we have alot of things to discuss about the concert... _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From kskerrett at cupe.ca Tue May 6 09:30:59 2003 From: kskerrett at cupe.ca (Kevin Skerrett) Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 09:30:59 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] are we having a meeting???? Message-ID: Hi everyone, I think Kess is (or was) trying to find a meeting room to hold a meeting tonight, but no announcement has been made yet, so I wonder if it still makes sense. It doesn't really give you guys much time to plan to attend if it isn't announced in advance. I know the CUPE Boardroom at 20 James was booked, so they were looking at CUPW (nearby). I just checked and Kess has the CUPE 20 James Boardroom booked for next Tuesday, May 13, and I booked it for you for Tuesday, May 20th, so if you want to meet on those days, you have a meeting room. I'll leave it to you guys to decide, either by email or if you do actually meet this week. One little suggestion: one thing that I've begun to use in groups that I work with is minor decisions (like when & where to hold meetings) getting made by email. If a proposal is made by email, and there is a certain amount of agreement posted (by email) - such as 5 or 6 agreements - and no objections, then the proposal passes (to be ratified at the next actual face-to-face meeting). This is only for decisions that have to be made in-between meetings - it allows a semi-fair process to get things accomplished, and avoids having to wait until the next formal meeting. Anyway, good luck, and maybe I'll see you next week... Kevin From gwen at nocog.org Tue May 6 10:10:43 2003 From: gwen at nocog.org (Gwen) Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 10:10:43 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] are we having a meeting???? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EB7C263.4080504@nocog.org> Hey, That's happened informally in the past. I say we pick a park for tomorrow and meet there, for whomever that's possible. Like I said I don't know anything baout parks around here. Thoughts? Gwen Kevin Skerrett wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I think Kess is (or was) trying to find a meeting room to hold a meeting tonight, > but no announcement has been made yet, so I wonder if it still makes sense. It > doesn't really give you guys much time to plan to attend if it isn't announced > in advance. I know the CUPE Boardroom at 20 James was booked, so they were looking > at CUPW (nearby). > > I just checked and Kess has the CUPE 20 James Boardroom booked for next Tuesday, May 13, > and I booked it for you for Tuesday, May 20th, so if you want to meet on those days, > you have a meeting room. I'll leave it to you guys to decide, either by email or if > you do actually meet this week. > > One little suggestion: one thing that I've begun to use in groups that I work with is > minor decisions (like when & where to hold meetings) getting made by email. If a > proposal is made by email, and there is a certain amount of agreement posted (by email) - such > as 5 or 6 agreements - and no objections, then the proposal passes (to be ratified at > the next actual face-to-face meeting). This is only for decisions that have to be made > in-between meetings - it allows a semi-fair process to get things accomplished, and > avoids having to wait until the next formal meeting. > > Anyway, good luck, and maybe I'll see you next week... > > Kevin > > _______________________________________________ > Oosaw-eoocg mailing list > Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca > http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg > -- "So raise your hands in the air like you're born again But make a fist for the struggle we was born to win" -The Coup ft. Dead Prez, Get Up! From deforgeo_thinking at hotmail.com Tue May 6 15:00:20 2003 From: deforgeo_thinking at hotmail.com (Michael DeForge) Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 15:00:20 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] discman Message-ID: Damn, I kept forgetting to send this until now. Last meeting, somebody left a discman on the parkbench outside, along with a small CD case. I'm not sure whose it is, but I still have it, and can bring it next meeting, or wherever. I planned to bring it if there was a meeting today, but it doesn't look like there's going to be one. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From deforgeo_thinking at hotmail.com Tue May 6 15:02:04 2003 From: deforgeo_thinking at hotmail.com (Michael DeForge) Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 15:02:04 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] are we having a meeting???? Message-ID: What about Major Hill's park, the one right by Parliament? I imagine that's fairly accessible to everyone. >From: Gwen >To: oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca >Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] are we having a meeting???? >Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 10:10:43 -0400 > >Hey, > >That's happened informally in the past. > >I say we pick a park for tomorrow and meet there, for whomever that's >possible. > >Like I said I don't know anything baout parks around here. Thoughts? > >Gwen > >Kevin Skerrett wrote: >>Hi everyone, >> >>I think Kess is (or was) trying to find a meeting room to hold a meeting >>tonight, >>but no announcement has been made yet, so I wonder if it still makes >>sense. It >>doesn't really give you guys much time to plan to attend if it isn't >>announced >>in advance. I know the CUPE Boardroom at 20 James was booked, so they >>were looking >>at CUPW (nearby). >> >>I just checked and Kess has the CUPE 20 James Boardroom booked for next >>Tuesday, May 13, >>and I booked it for you for Tuesday, May 20th, so if you want to meet on >>those days, >>you have a meeting room. I'll leave it to you guys to decide, either by >>email or if >>you do actually meet this week. >> >>One little suggestion: one thing that I've begun to use in groups that I >>work with is >>minor decisions (like when & where to hold meetings) getting made by >>email. If a proposal is made by email, and there is a certain amount of >>agreement posted (by email) - such >>as 5 or 6 agreements - and no objections, then the proposal passes (to be >>ratified at >>the next actual face-to-face meeting). This is only for decisions that >>have to be made >>in-between meetings - it allows a semi-fair process to get things >>accomplished, and avoids having to wait until the next formal meeting. >> >>Anyway, good luck, and maybe I'll see you next week... >> >>Kevin >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Oosaw-eoocg mailing list >>Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca >>http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg >> > >-- >"So raise your hands in the air like you're born again > But make a fist for the struggle we was born to win" > -The Coup ft. Dead Prez, Get Up! > >_______________________________________________ >Oosaw-eoocg mailing list >Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca >http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From kessinadress at hotmail.com Tue May 6 15:23:26 2003 From: kessinadress at hotmail.com (Kess E-Sioufi) Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 19:23:26 +0000 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] (no subject) Message-ID:

Hey Everyone,
Sorry I didn't post anything about the meeting, I was at a spring camp until yesterday at which point I was to tired to lift my eyelids, if you can imagine.
If there is anything emergency to discuss tonight then you guys can do it via e-mail, otherwise I think Gwen's idea sounded good (seeing as it doesn't look like anything is available for this week.) The next two meetings are booked: Tuesday the 13th and 20th at 6pm, 20 James street. I'm not feeling too good so if you do decide to meet at a park this week I probably wont be there, sorry.

Hope to see everyone next week

~Kess

 
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MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*. From shahnaz_mouhamou at hotmail.com Tue May 6 16:05:50 2003 From: shahnaz_mouhamou at hotmail.com (Shahnaz Mouhamou) Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 16:05:50 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] are we having a meeting???? Message-ID: yes ...we def need 2 meet...we dont even have a place 2 hold the actual concert! we need to discuss many things...next week is 2 late....for me the park will be fine as long as it doesnt rain >From: "Michael DeForge" >To: oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca >Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] are we having a meeting???? >Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 15:02:04 -0400 > >What about Major Hill's park, the one right by Parliament? I imagine that's >fairly accessible to everyone. > > >>From: Gwen >>To: oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca >>Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] are we having a meeting???? >>Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 10:10:43 -0400 >> >>Hey, >> >>That's happened informally in the past. >> >>I say we pick a park for tomorrow and meet there, for whomever that's >>possible. >> >>Like I said I don't know anything baout parks around here. Thoughts? >> >>Gwen >> >>Kevin Skerrett wrote: >>>Hi everyone, >>> >>>I think Kess is (or was) trying to find a meeting room to hold a meeting >>>tonight, >>>but no announcement has been made yet, so I wonder if it still makes >>>sense. It >>>doesn't really give you guys much time to plan to attend if it isn't >>>announced >>>in advance. I know the CUPE Boardroom at 20 James was booked, so they >>>were looking >>>at CUPW (nearby). >>> >>>I just checked and Kess has the CUPE 20 James Boardroom booked for next >>>Tuesday, May 13, >>>and I booked it for you for Tuesday, May 20th, so if you want to meet on >>>those days, >>>you have a meeting room. I'll leave it to you guys to decide, either by >>>email or if >>>you do actually meet this week. >>> >>>One little suggestion: one thing that I've begun to use in groups that I >>>work with is >>>minor decisions (like when & where to hold meetings) getting made by >>>email. If a proposal is made by email, and there is a certain amount of >>>agreement posted (by email) - such >>>as 5 or 6 agreements - and no objections, then the proposal passes (to be >>>ratified at >>>the next actual face-to-face meeting). This is only for decisions that >>>have to be made >>>in-between meetings - it allows a semi-fair process to get things >>>accomplished, and avoids having to wait until the next formal meeting. >>> >>>Anyway, good luck, and maybe I'll see you next week... >>> >>>Kevin >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Oosaw-eoocg mailing list >>>Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca >>>http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg >>> >> >>-- >>"So raise your hands in the air like you're born again >> But make a fist for the struggle we was born to win" >> -The Coup ft. Dead Prez, Get Up! >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Oosaw-eoocg mailing list >>Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca >>http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg > > >_________________________________________________________________ >The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > >_______________________________________________ >Oosaw-eoocg mailing list >Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca >http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From bananamonkey_cab at hotmail.com Tue May 6 16:16:11 2003 From: bananamonkey_cab at hotmail.com (** dalal **) Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 16:16:11 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] meeting. Message-ID:

Hey all,

Looks like the rain may stop tonight's meeting, but I guess that's fine. Thanks for the rooms on the 13th and 20th.

I was also wondering where things are going with the peace concert for now.

Thanks,

Dalal : )



MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* From deforgeo_thinking at hotmail.com Tue May 6 16:41:38 2003 From: deforgeo_thinking at hotmail.com (Michael DeForge) Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 16:41:38 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] are we having a meeting???? Message-ID: So do you think we can all agree on the park, assuming it won't rain? If not, I'm sure we can find away to organize a place to hold the concert through e-mail. . . Has anyone tried asking the folks at Bumpers? >From: "Shahnaz Mouhamou" >To: oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca >Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] are we having a meeting???? >Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 16:05:50 -0400 > > >yes ...we def need 2 meet...we dont even have a place 2 hold the actual >concert! >we need to discuss many things...next week is 2 late....for me the park >will be fine >as long as it doesnt rain > > >>From: "Michael DeForge" >>To: oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca >>Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] are we having a meeting???? >>Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 15:02:04 -0400 >> >>What about Major Hill's park, the one right by Parliament? I imagine >>that's fairly accessible to everyone. >> >> >>>From: Gwen >>>To: oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca >>>Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] are we having a meeting???? >>>Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 10:10:43 -0400 >>> >>>Hey, >>> >>>That's happened informally in the past. >>> >>>I say we pick a park for tomorrow and meet there, for whomever that's >>>possible. >>> >>>Like I said I don't know anything baout parks around here. Thoughts? >>> >>>Gwen >>> >>>Kevin Skerrett wrote: >>>>Hi everyone, >>>> >>>>I think Kess is (or was) trying to find a meeting room to hold a meeting >>>>tonight, >>>>but no announcement has been made yet, so I wonder if it still makes >>>>sense. It >>>>doesn't really give you guys much time to plan to attend if it isn't >>>>announced >>>>in advance. I know the CUPE Boardroom at 20 James was booked, so they >>>>were looking >>>>at CUPW (nearby). >>>> >>>>I just checked and Kess has the CUPE 20 James Boardroom booked for next >>>>Tuesday, May 13, >>>>and I booked it for you for Tuesday, May 20th, so if you want to meet on >>>>those days, >>>>you have a meeting room. I'll leave it to you guys to decide, either by >>>>email or if >>>>you do actually meet this week. >>>> >>>>One little suggestion: one thing that I've begun to use in groups that >>>>I work with is >>>>minor decisions (like when & where to hold meetings) getting made by >>>>email. If a proposal is made by email, and there is a certain amount of >>>>agreement posted (by email) - such >>>>as 5 or 6 agreements - and no objections, then the proposal passes (to >>>>be ratified at >>>>the next actual face-to-face meeting). This is only for decisions that >>>>have to be made >>>>in-between meetings - it allows a semi-fair process to get things >>>>accomplished, and avoids having to wait until the next formal meeting. >>>> >>>>Anyway, good luck, and maybe I'll see you next week... >>>> >>>>Kevin >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Oosaw-eoocg mailing list >>>>Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca >>>>http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg >>>> >>> >>>-- >>>"So raise your hands in the air like you're born again >>> But make a fist for the struggle we was born to win" >>> -The Coup ft. Dead Prez, Get Up! >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Oosaw-eoocg mailing list >>>Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca >>>http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* >>http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Oosaw-eoocg mailing list >>Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca >>http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > >_______________________________________________ >Oosaw-eoocg mailing list >Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca >http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From digitalerica at rogers.com Tue May 6 20:45:49 2003 From: digitalerica at rogers.com (Erica Woolley) Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 20:45:49 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Lawmaker cites Halliburton links to "axis of evil" countries Message-ID: <007201c31432$019702a0$8213c018@slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C31410.7A49E040 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_006F_01C31410.7A49E040" ------=_NextPart_001_006F_01C31410.7A49E040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The latest news says a subsidiary of Halliburton Co. received a contract = encompassing the operation of Iraqi oil fields = (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=3Dstory&u=3D/afp/20030506/pl_afp/i= raq_us_oil_halliburton&cid=3D1521&ncid=3D1473). This contradicts their = message in saying the oil will be controlled by the Iraqi people. = Ironically the Bush Administration stated previously that Halli would = ONLY receive a contract to "fight oil well fires" nothing more. The = double standard continues, check this out...(c/o Associated Press) Lawmaker cites Halliburton links to "axis of evil" countries Tue May 6, 5:25 PM ET Add Politics - AFP to My Yahoo!=20 =20 WASHINGTON (AFP) - Halliburton, the US oil services giant once headed by = Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites), has done business in = Iran, Iraq (news - web sites) and Libya for years despite US embargoes, = according to documents released by a lawmaker.=20 AFP Photo=20 =20 =20 A letter from Representative Henry Waxman, obtained Tuesday, said = Halliburton's dealings with countries cited by Washington as state = sponsors of terrorism or members of the so-called "axis of evil" dates = back to the 1980s.=20 The dealings "appear to have continued during the period between 1995 = and 2000, when Vice President Cheney headed the company; and they are = apparently ongoing even today," said Waxman, a Democrat and frequent = critic of President George W. Bush (news - web sites)'s administration.=20 Waxman, who has previously expressed concern about Halliburton's = multimillion-dollar contracts for postwar Iraq, made his latest comments = in a letter dated April 30 to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.=20 "Halliburton has recently been awarded a leading -- and lucrative -- = role in the US war against terrorism," Waxman wrote.=20 "Yet there is also evidence from press accounts and other sources that = indicates that Halliburton has profited from numerous business dealings = with state sponsors of terrorism, including two of the three members of = President Bush's 'axis of evil.'"=20 The "axis of evil" first cited by Bush in early 2002 included Iraq, = prior to the US-led war, Iran and North Korea (news - web sites).=20 Waxman stopped short of saying Halliburton's actions violated US laws = that prohibit business dealings in certain countries, but maintained = that Halliburton "appears to have sought to circumvent these = restrictions by setting up subsidiaries in foreign countries and = territories such as the Cayman Islands."=20 Waxman said he was concerned that the US government was awarding new = contracts to Halliburton despite its ties to certain countries.=20 He wrote to Rumsfeld, "I would like to know what the Defense Department = knows about these ties and whether you think this should be a matter of = concern to the Congress and the American taxpayer.=20 "Rather than being criticized, the company is rewarded with valuable = government contracts."=20 Some of the involvement of Halliburton is detailed in company documents = including its annual reports.=20 Halliburton spokesman Wendy Hall did not dispute the Waxman allegations, = but said the company operates within the law while trying to remain = competitive with US and foreign rivals.=20 "Putting politics aside, we and our affiliates operate in countries, to = the extent it is legally permissible, where our customers are active as = they expect us to provide oilfield services support to their = international operations," Hall said in a written statement.=20 "Where the United States government has mandated that United States = companies refrain from commerce, we comply, often to the advantage of = our international competitors. We do not always agree with policies or = actions of governments in every place that we do business and make no = excuses for their behaviors."=20 As for the actions of Halliburton offshore subsidiaries, Hall said, "The = company believes that the operations of its subsidiaries are in = compliance with US laws. These entities and activities are staffed and = managed by non-US personnel."=20 Halliburton, through a subsidiary, recently obtain a firefighting = contract in Iraq that could be worth up to seven billion dollars.=20 Waxman has asked the General Accounting Office (news - web sites), the = investigative arm of Congress, to probe whether the firm had received = favorable treatment by the administration.=20 Meanwhile, a spokeswoman for Cheney, contacted about the letter, gave no = immediate response.=20 But Citizen Works, a consumer advocacy group founded by onetime = presidential candidate Ralph Nader (news - web sites), said = Halliburton's treatment by the government was questionable.=20 "It's extremely troubling that our government is using taxpayer money to = deliver lucrative contracts to companies like Halliburton that have used = offshore subsidiaries to maneuver around restrictions on doing business = with state sponsors of terrorism," said spokesman Charlie Cray. ------=_NextPart_001_006F_01C31410.7A49E040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The latest news says a = subsidiary of=20 Halliburton Co. received a contract encompassing the = operation of=20 Iraqi oil fields (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=3Dstory&u=3D/afp/20030= 506/pl_afp/iraq_us_oil_halliburton&cid=3D1521&ncid=3D1473<= /A>). This contradicts their message in saying the oil will = be=20 controlled by the Iraqi people. Ironically the Bush Administration = stated=20 previously that Halli would ONLY receive a contract to "fight = oil well=20 fires" nothing more. The double standard continues, check this = out...(c/o=20 Associated Press)
 
Lawmaker cites = Halliburton links=20 to "axis of evil" countries
Tue May 6, 5:25 PM ET
Add = Politics - AFP to My=20 = Yahoo!

WASHINGTON (AFP) - Halliburton, the US oil = services giant=20 once headed by Vice President Dick Cheney (news=20 - web=20 sites), has done business in Iran, Iraq (news=20 - web=20 sites) and Libya for years despite US=20 embargoes, according to documents released by a lawmaker. =


AFP Photo=20

 

A letter from Representative Henry Waxman, obtained Tuesday, said=20 Halliburton's dealings with countries cited by Washington as state = sponsors of=20 terrorism or members of the so-called "axis of evil" dates back to the = 1980s.=20

The dealings "appear to have continued during the period = between 1995=20 and 2000, when Vice President Cheney headed the company; and = they are=20 apparently ongoing even today," said Waxman, a Democrat and frequent = critic of=20 President George W. Bush (news=20 - web=20 sites)'s administration.=20

Waxman, who has previously expressed concern about Halliburton's=20 multimillion-dollar contracts for postwar Iraq, made his latest comments = in a=20 letter dated April 30 to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.=20

"Halliburton has recently been awarded a leading -- and lucrative -- = role in=20 the US war against terrorism," Waxman wrote.=20

"Yet there is also evidence from press accounts and other = sources=20 that indicates that Halliburton has profited from numerous business = dealings=20 with state sponsors of terrorism, including two of the three members of=20 President Bush's 'axis of evil.'"=20

The "axis of evil" first cited by Bush in early 2002 included Iraq, = prior to=20 the US-led war, Iran and North Korea (news=20 - web=20 sites).=20

Waxman stopped short of saying Halliburton's actions violated US laws = that=20 prohibit business dealings in certain countries, but maintained that = Halliburton=20 "appears to have sought to circumvent these restrictions by setting up=20 subsidiaries in foreign countries and territories such as the Cayman = Islands."=20

Waxman said he was concerned that the US government was awarding new=20 contracts to Halliburton despite its ties to certain countries.=20

He wrote to Rumsfeld, "I would like to know what the Defense = Department knows=20 about these ties and whether you think this should be a matter of = concern to the=20 Congress and the American taxpayer.=20

"Rather than being criticized, the company is rewarded with valuable=20 government contracts."=20

Some of the involvement of Halliburton is detailed in company = documents=20 including its annual reports.=20

Halliburton spokesman Wendy Hall did not dispute the Waxman = allegations, but=20 said the company operates within the law while trying to remain = competitive with=20 US and foreign rivals.=20

"Putting politics aside, we and our affiliates operate in countries, = to the=20 extent it is legally permissible, where our customers are active as they = expect=20 us to provide oilfield services support to their international = operations," Hall=20 said in a written statement.=20

"Where the United States government has mandated that United States = companies=20 refrain from commerce, we comply, often to the advantage of our = international=20 competitors. We do not always agree with policies or actions of = governments in=20 every place that we do business and make no excuses for their = behaviors."=20

As for the actions of Halliburton offshore subsidiaries, Hall said, = "The=20 company believes that the operations of its subsidiaries are in = compliance with=20 US laws. These entities and activities are staffed and managed by non-US = personnel."=20

Halliburton, through a subsidiary, recently obtain a firefighting = contract in=20 Iraq that could be worth up to seven billion dollars.=20

Waxman has asked the General Accounting Office (news=20 - web=20 sites), the investigative arm of Congress, to probe whether the firm = had=20 received favorable treatment by the administration.=20

Meanwhile, a spokeswoman for Cheney, contacted about the letter, gave = no=20 immediate response.=20

But Citizen Works, a consumer advocacy group founded by onetime = presidential=20 candidate Ralph Nader (news=20 - web=20 sites), said Halliburton's treatment by the government was = questionable.=20

"It's extremely troubling that our government is using taxpayer money = to=20 deliver lucrative contracts to companies like Halliburton that have used = offshore subsidiaries to maneuver around restrictions on doing business = with=20 state sponsors of terrorism," said spokesman Charlie=20 Cray.

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Hey, This article is rather = interesting. I don't=20 know how valid it is though:
 
http://globalrese= arch.ca/articles/BOU305A.html
 
 
-Alex
------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C31413.DD304C50-- From alexrobinson at rogers.com Tue May 6 21:18:33 2003 From: alexrobinson at rogers.com (Alex Robinson) Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 21:18:33 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] CIA-Ben Laden*** Message-ID: <001e01c31436$93de6140$6401a8c0@Alex> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C31415.0C9F6FB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OOPS.. this is the article i meant to put in the last email i sent: http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/RIC111B.html -Alex ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C31415.0C9F6FB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OOPS.. this is the article i meant to = put in the=20 last email i sent:
 
http://www.gl= obalresearch.ca/articles/RIC111B.html
 
 
-Alex
------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C31415.0C9F6FB0-- From gwen at nocog.org Tue May 6 21:44:59 2003 From: gwen at nocog.org (Gwen) Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 21:44:59 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] [news] Legal proceedings about the murder of Carlo closed Message-ID: <3EB8651B.5050900@nocog.org> In July of 2001, when the G8 held a summit in Genoa, Italy, there were massive protests. Hundreds of thousands of people were in the streets of genoa, with differing tacticts being used on by various protestors. On boy, Carlo Giuliani, was killed by two gunshots at close range. Shots fired, of course, by a policeman. There are photographs of the incident, from beining to end, (isn't technology wonderful?) available here: http://www.nauseamanifesto.com/genoa/index.html (Navigation is at the bottom of the page... look through all the pics in order.) There have been legal goings-on in Italy in regards to this case since then. I've not been following them at all so I can't really comment much on them. The important part is that the policeman who shot and killed Carlo has been **AQUITTED** and will go back to his job as a cop. The IMC story: http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=317517&group=webcast BTW, the story of Genoa is a very compelling one. The IMC UK film _Genoa: Red Zone_ was what really solidified my anti-statist, anti-capitalist views. I'm ordering a copy of it, and it should be here soonish. I'd like people to borrow it if they'd like... It's a fucking amzing movie. Some info about it is halfway down this page: http://uk.indymedia.org/genoa_video.php3 No war but the class war! Gwen -- "So raise your hands in the air like you're born again But make a fist for the struggle we was born to win" -The Coup ft. Dead Prez, Get Up! From gwen at nocog.org Tue May 6 21:52:26 2003 From: gwen at nocog.org (Gwen) Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 21:52:26 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Tomorrow's Meeting: 6pm @ Major's Hill Park Message-ID: <3EB866DA.2040806@nocog.org> Alright. It's getting late! I am going to be at major hill park 6:00-6:30 tomorrow. I'll wait around until 7:00 or so if no one shows up. Is there a good landmark to meet by? Prefferably somewhere with benches or something? Gwen -- "So raise your hands in the air like you're born again But make a fist for the struggle we was born to win" -The Coup ft. Dead Prez, Get Up! From ghadaalwa at hotmail.com Wed May 7 00:21:56 2003 From: ghadaalwa at hotmail.com (Ghada Alwani) Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 04:21:56 +0000 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Rachel Corrie Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_b19_6649_3199 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------=_NextPart_000_b19_6649_3199 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Peacemaker.pps" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Peacemaker.pps Type: application/vnd.ms-powerpoint Size: 361472 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.cupe.ca/pipermail/oosaw-eoocg/attachments/20030507/16ba4f08/attachment.pps ------=_NextPart_000_b19_6649_3199-- From kessinadress at hotmail.com Wed May 7 12:09:40 2003 From: kessinadress at hotmail.com (Kess E-Sioufi) Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 16:09:40 +0000 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Tomorrow's Meeting: 6pm @ Major's Hill Park Message-ID:

Is tomorrow Wednesday? Because the date that shows up on my e-mail says you sent this message on wednesday which would mean tomorrow is thursday, very confusing. I think you ment tonight (wednesday), in which case I won't be able to make it (feeling ill) but I might be better tomorrow. It doesn't matter, I think the park is a great idea, and I hope everyone shows up tonight. Just thought that should be cleared up.

~Kess
 
_______________________________________________________________________
Ottawa Outaouais Students Against War

 

>From: Gwen

>To: oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca
>Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Tomorrow's Meeting: 6pm @ Major's Hill Park
>Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 21:52:26 -0400
>
>Alright. It's getting late!
>
>I am going to be at major hill park 6:00-6:30 tomorrow. I'll wait
>around until 7:00 or so if no one shows up.
>
>Is there a good landmark to meet by? Prefferably somewhere with
>benches or something?
>
>Gwen
>
>--
>"So raise your hands in the air like you're born again
> But make a fist for the struggle we was born to win"
> -The Coup ft. Dead Prez, Get Up!
>
>_______________________________________________
>Oosaw-eoocg mailing list
>Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca
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MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*. From gwen at nocog.org Wed May 7 16:07:45 2003 From: gwen at nocog.org (Gwen) Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 16:07:45 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Tomorrow's Meeting: 6pm @ Major's Hill Park In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EB96791.20305@nocog.org> Sorry, I meant wednesday. I sleep late at night. G Kess E-Sioufi wrote: > Is tomorrow Wednesday? Because the date that shows up on my e-mail says > you sent this message on wednesday which would mean tomorrow is > thursday, very confusing. I think you ment tonight (wednesday), in which > case I won't be able to make it (feeling ill) but I might be better > tomorrow. It doesn't matter, I think the park is a great idea, and I > hope everyone shows up tonight. Just thought that should be cleared up. > > ~Kess > kessinadress at rogers.com > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Ottawa Outaouais Students Against War > oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca > > > > > >From: Gwen > > >To: oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca > >Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Tomorrow's Meeting: 6pm @ Major's Hill Park > >Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 21:52:26 -0400 > > > >Alright. It's getting late! > > > >I am going to be at major hill park 6:00-6:30 tomorrow. I'll wait > >around until 7:00 or so if no one shows up. > > > >Is there a good landmark to meet by? Prefferably somewhere with > >benches or something? > > > >Gwen > > > >-- > >"So raise your hands in the air like you're born again > > But make a fist for the struggle we was born to win" > > -The Coup ft. Dead Prez, Get Up! > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Oosaw-eoocg mailing list > >Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca > >http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. > Get 2 months FREE*. > _______________________________________________ Oosaw-eoocg mailing list > Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg -- "So raise your hands in the air like you're born again But make a fist for the struggle we was born to win" -The Coup ft. Dead Prez, Get Up! From deforgeo_thinking at hotmail.com Wed May 7 17:07:33 2003 From: deforgeo_thinking at hotmail.com (Michael DeForge) Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 17:07:33 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Tomorrow's Meeting: 6pm @ Major's Hill Park Message-ID: I won't be able to attend, I have alot of homework, and a band I know is playing at a concert later tonight. Could someone raise the issue of the unclaimed discman at the meeting? If you missed my e-mail about it, somebody left a discman and a CD case at a park bench outside of the CUPE building, and I think it belonged to someone in the group. Nobody's claimed it ye. . . >From: Gwen >To: oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca >Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] Tomorrow's Meeting: 6pm @ Major's Hill Park >Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 16:07:45 -0400 > >Sorry, I meant wednesday. I sleep late at night. > >G > >Kess E-Sioufi wrote: >>Is tomorrow Wednesday? Because the date that shows up on my e-mail says >>you sent this message on wednesday which would mean tomorrow is thursday, >>very confusing. I think you ment tonight (wednesday), in which case I >>won't be able to make it (feeling ill) but I might be better tomorrow. It >>doesn't matter, I think the park is a great idea, and I hope everyone >>shows up tonight. Just thought that should be cleared up. >> >>~Kess >>kessinadress at rogers.com >> _______________________________________________________________________ >>Ottawa Outaouais Students Against War >>oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca >> >> >> >> >> >From: Gwen >> >> >To: oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca >> >Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Tomorrow's Meeting: 6pm @ Major's Hill Park >> >Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 21:52:26 -0400 >> > >> >Alright. It's getting late! >> > >> >I am going to be at major hill park 6:00-6:30 tomorrow. I'll wait >> >around until 7:00 or so if no one shows up. >> > >> >Is there a good landmark to meet by? Prefferably somewhere with >> >benches or something? >> > >> >Gwen >> > >> >-- >> >"So raise your hands in the air like you're born again >> > But make a fist for the struggle we was born to win" >> > -The Coup ft. Dead Prez, Get Up! >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Oosaw-eoocg mailing list >> >Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca >> >http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. >> Get 2 months FREE*. >>_______________________________________________ Oosaw-eoocg mailing list >>Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca >>http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg > >-- >"So raise your hands in the air like you're born again > But make a fist for the struggle we was born to win" > -The Coup ft. Dead Prez, Get Up! > >_______________________________________________ >Oosaw-eoocg mailing list >Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca >http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From digitalerica at rogers.com Wed May 7 20:30:04 2003 From: digitalerica at rogers.com (Erica Woolley) Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 20:30:04 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] cancelled - a little bit of conversation Message-ID: <001e01c314f8$f8b59300$8213c018@slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C314D7.7160CF80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Due to lack of interest the bi-weekly gathering of "A Little Bit of = Conversation" has been cancelled. We came far short of the room rental = of $50. =20 Thanks very much to those that came out and supported the April 30th = event :-).=20 Erica Woolley ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C314D7.7160CF80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Due to lack of interest the bi-weekly = gathering of=20 "A Little Bit of Conversation" has been cancelled. We came far short of = the room=20 rental of $50. 
 
Thanks very much to those that = came out and=20 supported the April 30th event :-).
 
Erica = Woolley
------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C314D7.7160CF80-- From b.hassan at sympatico.ca Thu May 8 15:55:02 2003 From: b.hassan at sympatico.ca (Baalqis Hassan) Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 15:55:02 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] publicity Message-ID: <001201c3159b$b9a1aac0$18b7d1d8@y3t6z7> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C3157A.2FBE4D20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, i know that at the meeting last tuesday we decided against putting up = posters for the concert and rely on word of mouth. If you guys don't = want to put up posters I have an idea that would require no effort. A = little while ago I did a radio interview. I mentioned our concert to the = guy who interviewed me and he said that if I ever wanted him to mention = something like that on his show that I could just call him and he'd do = his best. If every one thinks that this is a good idea I can try and = find his number and give him a call. -Baalqis ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C3157A.2FBE4D20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey,
 
i know that at the meeting last tuesday = we decided=20 against putting up posters for the concert and rely on word of mouth. If = you=20 guys don't want to put up posters I have an idea that would require no = effort. A=20 little while ago I did a radio interview. I mentioned our concert to the = guy who=20 interviewed me and he said that if I ever wanted him to mention = something like=20 that on his show that I could just call him and he'd do his best. If = every one=20 thinks that this is a good idea I can try and find his number and give = him a=20 call.
 
-Baalqis
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C3157A.2FBE4D20-- From shahnaz_mouhamou at hotmail.com Thu May 8 17:18:07 2003 From: shahnaz_mouhamou at hotmail.com (Shahnaz Mouhamou) Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 17:18:07 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Concert Message-ID: i thought we relied on word of mouth only for the auditions because we didnt want a huge turnout. but for the actual concert we def need to advertise it..even by puting posters, radio, tv....or else we'd be wasting our time organizing this event...we wont get a good turnout...so ne way...the reason why i wanted to meet with all of u was because WE DONT HAVE A ROOM RENTED!....im sorry 2 sound bitchy..but there willl\ be no concert if there is no place to hold it at......getting a room 2 weeks b4 the actual show is nearly impossible...unless we make it a primary school classroom...i thought we had appointed someone to call around last week? ne way...yesterday gwen haifa and I...at the meeting,,,,went around a few clubs....cafe decuf is the only one that said no prb...but with a fee of about 2000$or more. The babylon still needs to get checked and Bumbers....immediately...i will call them this evening to check the prices..and availability. baalquis..did u check up on the possible charities? if u havent make sure to have info for the next meeting...we need to start oganizing publicity one more question...have u guys passed around the audition papers around the school? simply puting them up on the walls wil not be enough.... so 2 summarize we need: ------------- -venue---check price, availability, restrictions, - if needed get a sponser to help with the expenses(including rent, nething sold at the door..etc) -ill call 2night to get the info -publicity--(guys try 2make some posters on the comp, or by hand..leave blanks for the info we dont have) - we need these papers in my next meeting..so we'll pick which ones to put out - we need discuss other possibilities of publicity(ex announcements at school, tv, radio) -auditions-- discuss layout plan on how we are going to judge them --the time we need to get 2 hillcrest, and all lil details --continue/start passing the papers for auditions(they dont necessarily need to rsvp...hardly nebody has done it)(but stress that they all need to be there on time..and no racism in lyrics) -- possible 2nd audition for people that couldnt make it..depending on the turnout of the first --drums will be lent to us by the hillcrest music department...all other equipement needs to be brought. maybe we should set a seperate meeting for the concert committee..we need to get things done jury ----- shahnaz dalal brendon julia katie (sorry alex i know u wanted to join but we had already made a group vote) concert committee --------------------------- u know who u are ...check kess's concert committe email if u want info i know im missing something but now thats all i can remember feel free 2 add nething shahnaz >From: "Baalqis Hassan" >To: >Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] publicity >Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 15:55:02 -0400 > >Hey, > >i know that at the meeting last tuesday we decided against putting up >posters for the concert and rely on word of mouth. If you guys don't want >to put up posters I have an idea that would require no effort. A little >while ago I did a radio interview. I mentioned our concert to the guy who >interviewed me and he said that if I ever wanted him to mention something >like that on his show that I could just call him and he'd do his best. If >every one thinks that this is a good idea I can try and find his number and >give him a call. > >-Baalqis _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From alexrobinson at rogers.com Thu May 8 18:09:19 2003 From: alexrobinson at rogers.com (Alex Robinson) Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 18:09:19 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] posters Message-ID: <001001c315ae$7978d280$6401a8c0@Alex> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C3158C.F2221330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, Why have we decided against posters to publicize the event? I would = gladly print off posters and distribute them if it is just a matter of = having the resources to do so. -Alex ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C3158C.F2221330 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey,
 
Why have we decided against posters to = publicize=20 the event? I would gladly print off posters and distribute them if it is = just a=20 matter of having the resources to do so.
 
-Alex
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C3158C.F2221330-- From bananamonkey_cab at hotmail.com Thu May 8 18:23:49 2003 From: bananamonkey_cab at hotmail.com (** dalal **) Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 18:23:49 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Peace concert. Message-ID:

Hello all,

The peace concert time is approching faster and faster!  When the information for the room is settled we should start advertising right away, it's essential to hand out flyers (in big numbers)  put up posters, distribute flyers to all local music stoors, post concert date on punkottawa.com (it doesn't have to be a punk show to be posted on this site, the site simply promotes the sharing of music and shows)  If any information to do with the room or auditions is found please communicate it!  I know that Babylon is too expensive, and it seems as though finding a room may be tough, but we've gotta stick to it!

Thanks everyone for all the effort put into all of this!
Dalal

>From: "Shahnaz Mouhamou"
>To: b.hassan at sympatico.ca, oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca
>Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Concert
>Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 17:18:07 -0400
>
>
>i thought we relied on word of mouth only for the auditions because
>we didnt want a huge turnout. but for the actual concert we def
>need to advertise it..even by puting posters, radio, tv....or else
>we'd be wasting our time organizing this event...we wont get a good
>turnout...so ne way...the reason why i wanted to meet with all of u
>was because WE DONT HAVE A ROOM RENTED!....im sorry 2 sound
>bitchy..but there willl\ be no concert if there is no place to hold
>it at......getting a room 2 weeks b4 the actual show is nearly
>impossible...unless we make it a primary school classroom...i
>thought we had appointed someone to call around last week? ne
>way...yesterday gwen haifa and I...at the meeting,,,,went around a
>few clubs....cafe decuf is the only one that said no prb...but with
>a fee of about 2000$or more. The babylon still needs to get checked
>and Bumbers....immediately...i will call them this evening to check
>the prices..and availability. baalquis..did u check up on the
>possible charities? if u havent make sure to have info for the next
>meeting...we need to start oganizing publicity
>one more question...have u guys passed around the audition papers
>around the school? simply puting them up on the walls wil not be
>enough....
>so 2 summarize
>we need:
>-------------
>-venue---check price, availability, restrictions,
> - if needed get a sponser to help with the expenses(including
>rent, nething sold at the door..etc)
> -ill call 2night to get the info
>-publicity--(guys try 2make some posters on the comp, or by
>hand..leave blanks for the info we dont have)
> - we need these papers in my next meeting..so we'll pick which
>ones to put out
> - we need discuss other possibilities of publicity(ex
>announcements at school, tv, radio)
>-auditions-- discuss layout plan on how we are going to judge them
> --the time we need to get 2 hillcrest, and all lil
>details
> --continue/start passing the papers for auditions(they
>dont necessarily need to rsvp...hardly nebody has done it)(but
>stress that they all need to be there on time..and no racism in
>lyrics)
> -- possible 2nd audition for people that couldnt make
>it..depending on the turnout of the first
> --drums will be lent to us by the hillcrest music
>department...all other equipement needs to be brought.
>
>maybe we should set a seperate meeting for the concert committee..we
>need to get things done
>
>jury
>-----
>shahnaz
>dalal
>brendon
>julia
>katie
>(sorry alex i know u wanted to join but we had already made a group
>vote)
>
>concert committee
>---------------------------
>u know who u are ...check kess's concert committe email if u want
>info
>
>i know im missing something but now thats all i can remember
>feel free 2 add nething
>
>shahnaz
>
>
>
>>From: "Baalqis Hassan"
>>To:
>>Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] publicity
>>Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 15:55:02 -0400
>>
>>Hey,
>>
>>i know that at the meeting last tuesday we decided against putting
>>up posters for the concert and rely on word of mouth. If you guys
>>don't want to put up posters I have an idea that would require no
>>effort. A little while ago I did a radio interview. I mentioned our
>>concert to the guy who interviewed me and he said that if I ever
>>wanted him to mention something like that on his show that I could
>>just call him and he'd do his best. If every one thinks that this
>>is a good idea I can try and find his number and give him a call.
>>
>>-Baalqis
>
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STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* From kessinadress at hotmail.com Thu May 8 19:10:15 2003 From: kessinadress at hotmail.com (Kess E-Sioufi) Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 23:10:15 +0000 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Concert Message-ID:

The things on your list seem pretty basic, we can all make the biggest effort we can advertising, that won't be hard. As far as sponcers go, give me a couple ideas as to who we should should ask and I can call around. Other than that we need a ROOM! I was just wondering who was looking around for one. If anybody was, it looks like you were Shanaz, so we should keep that up and find one fast. That's our priority.
We're doing ok.

~Kess
 
_______________________________________________________________________
Ottawa Outaouais Students Against War
 
 
 
 
>From: "Shahnaz Mouhamou"
>To: b.hassan at sympatico.ca, oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca
>Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Concert
>Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 17:18:07 -0400
>
>
>i thought we relied on word of mouth only for the auditions because
>we didnt want a huge turnout. but for the actual concert we def
>need to advertise it..even by puting posters, radio, tv....or else
>we'd be wasting our time organizing this event...we wont get a good
>turnout...so ne way...the reason why i wanted to meet with all of u
>was because WE DONT HAVE A ROOM RENTED!....im sorry 2 sound
>bitchy..but there willl\ be no concert if there is no place to hold
>it at......getting a room 2 weeks b4 the actual show is nearly
>impossible...unless we make it a primary school classroom...i
>thought we had appointed someone to call around last week? ne
>way...yesterday gwen haifa and I...at the meeting,,,,went around a
>few clubs....cafe decuf is the only one that said no prb...but with
>a fee of about 2000$or more. The babylon still needs to get checked
>and Bumbers....immediately...i will call them this evening to check
>the prices..and availability. baalquis..did u check up on the
>possible charities? if u havent make sure to have info for the next
>meeting...we need to start oganizing publicity
>one more question...have u guys passed around the audition papers
>around the school? simply puting them up on the walls wil not be
>enough....
>so 2 summarize
>we need:
>-------------
>-venue---check price, availability, restrictions,
> - if needed get a sponser to help with the expenses(including
>rent, nething sold at the door..etc)
> -ill call 2night to get the info
>-publicity--(guys try 2make some posters on the comp, or by
>hand..leave blanks for the info we dont have)
> - we need these papers in my next meeting..so we'll pick which
>ones to put out
> - we need discuss other possibilities of publicity(ex
>announcements at school, tv, radio)
>-auditions-- discuss layout plan on how we are going to judge them
> --the time we need to get 2 hillcrest, and all lil
>details
> --continue/start passing the papers for auditions(they
>dont necessarily need to rsvp...hardly nebody has done it)(but
>stress that they all need to be there on time..and no racism in
>lyrics)
> -- possible 2nd audition for people that couldnt make
>it..depending on the turnout of the first
> --drums will be lent to us by the hillcrest music
>department...all other equipement needs to be brought.
>
>maybe we should set a seperate meeting for the concert committee..we
>need to get things done
>
>jury
>-----
>shahnaz
>dalal
>brendon
>julia
>katie
>(sorry alex i know u wanted to join but we had already made a group
>vote)
>
>concert committee
>---------------------------
>u know who u are ...check kess's concert committe email if u want
>info
>
>i know im missing something but now thats all i can remember
>feel free 2 add nething
>
>shahnaz
>
>
>
>>From: "Baalqis Hassan"
>>To:
>>Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] publicity
>>Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 15:55:02 -0400
>>
>>Hey,
>>
>>i know that at the meeting last tuesday we decided against putting
>>up posters for the concert and rely on word of mouth. If you guys
>>don't want to put up posters I have an idea that would require no
>>effort. A little while ago I did a radio interview. I mentioned our
>>concert to the guy who interviewed me and he said that if I ever
>>wanted him to mention something like that on his show that I could
>>just call him and he'd do his best. If every one thinks that this
>>is a good idea I can try and find his number and give him a call.
>>
>>-Baalqis
>
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hi, i just contacted a professor from carleton u. and she might be able to get something for us.  Another thing about the publicizing of the concert i feel that anything to make our event more public is great...word of mouth, posters, radio, newspaper...whatever! i just thought to say that..

-Leslie

p.s i'm hoping she'll respond to me soon so i know for sure.


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Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. From b.hassan at sympatico.ca Thu May 8 21:23:47 2003 From: b.hassan at sympatico.ca (Baalqis Hassan) Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 21:23:47 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Re: Concert References: Message-ID: <001201c315c9$a4d8fe80$08b9d1d8@y3t6z7> hey I did check about the charities. I haven't made a decision because that should be a group decision but I will present it at the next meeting ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shahnaz Mouhamou" To: ; Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 5:18 PM Subject: Concert > > i thought we relied on word of mouth only for the auditions because we didnt > want a huge turnout. but for the actual concert we def need to advertise > it..even by puting posters, radio, tv....or else we'd be wasting our time > organizing this event...we wont get a good turnout...so ne way...the reason > why i wanted to meet with all of u was because WE DONT HAVE A ROOM > RENTED!....im sorry 2 sound bitchy..but there willl\ be no concert if there > is no place to hold it at......getting a room 2 weeks b4 the actual show is > nearly impossible...unless we make it a primary school classroom...i thought > we had appointed someone to call around last week? ne way...yesterday gwen > haifa and I...at the meeting,,,,went around a few clubs....cafe decuf is the > only one that said no prb...but with a fee of about 2000$or more. The > babylon still needs to get checked and Bumbers....immediately...i will call > them this evening to check the prices..and availability. baalquis..did u > check up on the possible charities? if u havent make sure to have info for > the next meeting...we need to start oganizing publicity > one more question...have u guys passed around the audition papers around the > school? simply puting them up on the walls wil not be enough.... > so 2 summarize > we need: > ------------- > -venue---check price, availability, restrictions, > - if needed get a sponser to help with the expenses(including rent, > nething sold at the door..etc) > -ill call 2night to get the info > -publicity--(guys try 2make some posters on the comp, or by hand..leave > blanks for the info we dont have) > - we need these papers in my next meeting..so we'll pick which ones to > put out > - we need discuss other possibilities of publicity(ex announcements at > school, tv, radio) > -auditions-- discuss layout plan on how we are going to judge them > --the time we need to get 2 hillcrest, and all lil details > --continue/start passing the papers for auditions(they dont > necessarily need to rsvp...hardly nebody has done it)(but stress that they > all need to be there on time..and no racism in lyrics) > -- possible 2nd audition for people that couldnt make > it..depending on the turnout of the first > --drums will be lent to us by the hillcrest music > department...all other equipement needs to be brought. > > maybe we should set a seperate meeting for the concert committee..we need to > get things done > > jury > ----- > shahnaz > dalal > brendon > julia > katie > (sorry alex i know u wanted to join but we had already made a group vote) > > concert committee > --------------------------- > u know who u are ...check kess's concert committe email if u want info > > i know im missing something but now thats all i can remember > feel free 2 add nething > > shahnaz > > > > >From: "Baalqis Hassan" > >To: > >Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] publicity > >Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 15:55:02 -0400 > > > >Hey, > > > >i know that at the meeting last tuesday we decided against putting up > >posters for the concert and rely on word of mouth. If you guys don't want > >to put up posters I have an idea that would require no effort. A little > >while ago I did a radio interview. I mentioned our concert to the guy who > >interviewed me and he said that if I ever wanted him to mention something > >like that on his show that I could just call him and he'd do his best. If > >every one thinks that this is a good idea I can try and find his number and > >give him a call. > > > >-Baalqis > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > From funkysilverstar_ at hotmail.com Thu May 8 22:14:08 2003 From: funkysilverstar_ at hotmail.com (* Leslie *) Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 19:14:08 -0700 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] peace concert Message-ID:

hey, i got a reply back and she said that she might be able to get something but she needs the dates and the estimated amount of people. She also suggested community centers or even church basements so its something to consider.

-Leslie






MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* From digitalerica at rogers.com Fri May 9 15:35:26 2003 From: digitalerica at rogers.com (Erica Woolley) Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 15:35:26 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Michael Moore Letter Message-ID: <006701c31662$24d43940$8213c018@slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C31640.9D332A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable By Michael Moore=20 Dear friends,=20 It appears that the Bush administration will have succeeded in = colonizing Iraq sometime in the next few days. This is a blunder of such = magnitude-- and we will pay for it for years to come. It was not worth = the life of one single American kid in uniform, let alone the thousands = of Iraqis who have died, and my condolences and prayers go out to all of = them. So, where are all those weapons of mass destruction that were the = pretense for this war?=20 Ha! There is so much to say about all this, but I will save it for = later. What I am most concerned about right now is that all of you -- = the majority of Americans who did not support this war in the first = place -- not go silent or be intimidated by what will be touted as some = great military=20 victory.=20 Now, more than ever, the voices of peace and truth must be heard. I have = received a lot of mail from people who are feeling a profound sense of = despair and believe that their voices have been drowned out by the drums = and bombs of false patriotism. Some are afraid of retaliation at work or = at school or in their neighborhoods because they have been vocal = proponents of peace. They have been told over and over that it is not = "appropriate" to protest once the country is at war, and that your only = duty now is to "support the troops."=20 Can I share with you what it's been like for me since I used my time on = the Oscar stage two weeks ago to speak out against Bush and this war? I = hope that, in reading what I'm about to tell you, you'll feel a bit more = emboldened to make your voice heard in whatever way or forum that is = open=20 to you.=20 When "Bowling for Columbine" was announced as the Oscar winner for Best = Documentary at the Academy Awards, the audience rose to its feet. It was = a great moment, one that I will always cherish. They were standing and = cheering for a film that says we Americans are a uniquely violent = people,=20 using our massive stash of guns to kill each other and to use them = against many countries around the world. They were applauding a film = that shows George W. Bush using fictitious fears to frighten the public = into giving him whatever he wants. And they were honoring a film that = states the following:=20 The first Gulf War was an attempt to reinstall the dictator of Kuwait; = Saddam Hussein was armed with weapons from the United States; and the = American government is responsible for the deaths of a half-million = children in Iraq over the past decade through its sanctions and bombing. = That was the movie they were cheering, that was the movie they voted = for, and so I decided that is what I should acknowledge in my speech.=20 And, thus, I said the following from the Oscar stage:=20 "On behalf of our producers Kathleen Glynn and Michael Donovan (from = Canada), I would like to thank the Academy for this award. I have = invited the other Documentary nominees on stage with me. They are here = in solidarity because we like non-fiction. We like non-fiction because = we live=20 in fictitious times. We live in a time where fictitious election results = give us a fictitious president. We are now fighting a war for fictitious = reasons. Whether it's the fiction of duct tape or the fictitious 'Orange = Alerts,' we are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush, = shame on you. And, whenever you've got the Pope and the Dixie Chicks = against you, you're time is up."=20 Halfway through my remarks, some in the audience started to cheer. That = immediately set off a group of people in the balcony who started to boo. = Then those supporting my remarks started to shout down the booers. The = L. A. Times reported that the director of the show started screaming at = the orchestra "Music! Music!" in order to cut me off, so the band = dutifully struck up a tune and my time was up. (For more on why I said = what I said, you can read the op-ed I wrote for the L.A. Times, plus = other reaction from around the country at my website = www.michaelmoore.com)=20 =20 Well, the good news -- if there can be any good news this week -- is = that not only have neither I nor others been silenced, we have been = joined by millions of Americans who think the same way we do. Don't let = the false patriots intimidate you by setting the agenda or the terms of = the debate.=20 Don't be defeated by polls that show 70% of the public in favor of the = war. Remember that these Americans being polled are the same Americans = whose kids (or neighbor's kids) have been sent over to Iraq. They are = scared for the troops and they are being cowed into supporting a war = they did not want -- and they want even less to see their friends, = family, and neighbors come home dead. Everyone supports the troops = returning home alive and all of us need to reach out and let their = families know that.=20 Unfortunately, Bush and Co. are not through yet. This invasion and = conquest will encourage them to do it again elsewhere. The real purpose = of this war was to say to the rest of the world, "Don't Mess with Texas = - If You Got What We Want, We're Coming to Get It!" This is not the time = for the=20 majority of us who believe in a peaceful America to be quiet. Make your = voices heard. Despite what they have pulled off, it is still our = country.=20 Yours,=20 Michael Moore=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C31640.9D332A80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
By Michael = Moore

Dear friends,

It = appears that=20 the Bush administration will have succeeded in colonizing Iraq sometime = in the=20 next few days. This is a blunder of such magnitude-- and we will pay for = it for=20 years to come. It was not worth the life of one single American kid in = uniform,=20 let alone the thousands of Iraqis who have died, and my condolences and = prayers=20 go out to all of them. So, where are all those weapons of mass = destruction that=20 were the pretense for this war?

Ha! There is so much to say = about all=20 this, but I will save it for later. What I am most concerned about right = now is=20 that all of you -- the majority of Americans who did not support this = war in the=20 first place -- not go silent or be intimidated by what will be touted as = some=20 great military
victory.

Now, more than ever, the voices of = peace and=20 truth must be heard. I have received a lot of mail from people who are = feeling a=20 profound sense of despair and believe that their voices have been = drowned out by=20 the drums and bombs of false patriotism. Some are afraid of retaliation = at work=20 or at school or in their neighborhoods because they have been vocal = proponents=20 of peace. They have been told over and over that it is not "appropriate" = to=20 protest once the country is at war, and that your only duty now is to = "support=20 the troops."

Can I share with you what it's been like for me = since I=20 used my time on the Oscar stage two weeks ago to speak out against Bush = and this=20 war? I hope that, in reading what I'm about to tell you, you'll feel a = bit more=20 emboldened to make your voice heard in whatever way or forum that is = open
to=20 you.

When "Bowling for Columbine" was announced as the Oscar = winner for=20 Best Documentary at the Academy Awards, the audience rose to its feet. = It was a=20 great moment, one that I will always cherish. They were standing and = cheering=20 for a film that says we Americans are a uniquely violent people, =
using our=20 massive stash of guns to kill each other and to use them against many = countries=20 around the world. They were applauding a film that shows George W. Bush = using=20 fictitious fears to frighten the public into giving him whatever he = wants. And=20 they were honoring a film that states the following:

The first = Gulf War=20 was an attempt to reinstall the dictator of Kuwait; Saddam Hussein was = armed=20 with weapons from the United States; and the American government is = responsible=20 for the deaths of a half-million children in Iraq over the past decade = through=20 its sanctions and bombing. That was the movie they were cheering, that = was the=20 movie they voted for, and so I decided that is what I should acknowledge = in my=20 speech.

And, thus, I said the following from the Oscar stage:=20

"On behalf of our producers Kathleen Glynn = and=20 Michael Donovan (from Canada), I would like to thank the Academy for = this award.=20 I have invited the other Documentary nominees on stage with me. They are = here in=20 solidarity because we like non-fiction. We like non-fiction because we = live=20
in fictitious times. We live in a time where fictitious election = results=20 give us a fictitious president. We are now fighting a war for fictitious = reasons. Whether it's the fiction of duct tape or the fictitious 'Orange = Alerts,' we are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush, = shame on=20 you. And, whenever you've got the Pope and the Dixie Chicks against you, = you're=20 time is up."


Halfway through my remarks, some in the = audience=20 started to cheer. That immediately set off a group of people in the = balcony who=20 started to boo. Then those supporting my remarks started to shout down = the=20 booers. The L. A. Times reported that the director of the show started = screaming=20 at the orchestra "Music! Music!" in order to cut me off, so the band = dutifully=20 struck up a tune and my time was up. (For more on why I said what I = said, you=20 can read the op-ed I wrote for the L.A. Times, plus other reaction from = around=20 the country at my website www.michaelmoore.com)
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http://www.michaelmoore.com)/>

Well, the good news -- if there can be any good = news this=20 week -- is that not only have neither I nor others been silenced, we = have been=20 joined by millions of Americans who think the same way we do. Don't let = the=20 false patriots intimidate you by setting the agenda or the terms of the = debate.=20
Don't be defeated by polls that show 70% of the public in favor of = the war.=20 Remember that these Americans being polled are the same Americans whose = kids (or=20 neighbor's kids) have been sent over to Iraq. They are scared for the = troops and=20 they are being cowed into supporting a war they did not want -- and they = want=20 even less to see their friends, family, and neighbors come home dead. = Everyone=20 supports the troops returning home alive and all of us need to reach out = and let=20 their families know that.

Unfortunately, Bush and Co. are not = through=20 yet. This invasion and conquest will encourage them to do it again = elsewhere.=20 The real purpose of this war was to say to the rest of the world, "Don't = Mess=20 with Texas - If You Got What We Want, We're Coming to Get It!" This is = not the=20 time for the
majority of us who believe in a peaceful America to be = quiet.=20 Make your voices heard. Despite what they have pulled off, it is still = our=20 country.

Yours,

Michael=20 Moore
------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C31640.9D332A80-- From digitalerica at rogers.com Fri May 9 22:45:57 2003 From: digitalerica at rogers.com (Erica Woolley) Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 22:45:57 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Halliburton admits to paid Nigerian Bribe Message-ID: <009401c3169e$4947ec40$8213c018@slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0090_01C3167C.C1D19700 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0091_01C3167C.C1D19700" ------=_NextPart_001_0091_01C3167C.C1D19700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The drama with Halliburton continues... the scary part is all these = stories are in the mainstream media. The scarier part is that the = American people don't seem to have much reaction to it. Halliburton admits it paid Nigerian bribe Fri May 9, 1:51 PM ET Add Top Stories - AFP to My Yahoo!=20 =20 WASHINGTON (AFP) - Oil services giant Halliburton, already under fire = over accusations that its White house ties helped win a major Iraqi oil = contract, has admitted that a subsidiary paid a multi-million dollar = bribe to a Nigerian tax official.=20 AFP Photo=20 =20 =20 Halliburton, once run by Vice President Richard Cheney, revealed the = illicit payments, worth 2.4 million dollars, in a filing Thursday with = the Securities and Exchange Commission (news - web sites) (SEC).=20 "The payments were made to obtain favorable tax treatment and clearly = violated our code of business conduct and our internal control = procedures," Halliburton said.=20 Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg Brown and Root (KBR), which paid the = bribe, has been in the political spotlight since it was awarded a no-bid = US government oil contract in Iraq (news - web sites) in March.=20 KBR is building a liquefied natural gas plant and an offshore oil and = gas terminal in Nigeria.=20 Halliburton told the SEC the bribe was discovered during an audit of = KBR's Nigerian office.=20 The payments were made in 2001 and 2002, Halliburton spokeswoman Zelma = Branch told AFP's business ethics news service, AFX Global Ethics = Monitor.=20 Cheney led the company as chief executive from 1995 until August 2000, = when he became President George W. Bush (news - web sites)'s running = mate.=20 "Based on the findings of the investigation we have terminated several = employees," Halliburton said in the filing, adding that none of its = senior officers was involved in the bribe.=20 "We are cooperating with the SEC in its review of the matter," = Halliburton said.=20 "We plan to take further action to ensure that our foreign subsidiary = pays all taxes owed in Nigeria, which may be as much as an additional = five million dollars, which has been fully accrued."=20 Halliburton said its code of business conduct and internal control = procedures were "essential" to the way it ran its business.=20 The group is already facing questions over its business in Iraq and its = accounting practices.=20 On Tuesday, a US lawmaker said the military had revealed for the first = time that KBR had a contract encompassing the operation of Iraqi oil = fields.=20 Previously, the US Army Corps of Engineers had described the contract = given to Halliburton as involving oil well firefighting.=20 But in a May 2 letter replying to questions from Henry Waxman, a = Democrat, the army said the contract also included "operation of = facilities and distribution of products."=20 Waxman, the top-ranking Democrat in the House of Representatives' = committee on government reform, asked for an explanation.=20 "These new disclosures are significant and they seem at odds with the = administration's repeated assurances that the Iraqi oil belongs to the = Iraqi people," Waxman said.=20 The Army Corps of Engineers had said it decided to forgo competitive = bidding on the first contract because of time constraints.=20 But in a May 2 letter responding to questions from Waxman, military = programs chief Lieutenant General Robert Flowers said the military = assigned the work to KBR's services division in November 2002, under a = pre-existing contract for the firm to provide logistical support to the = US Army worldwide.=20 Waxman has also criticized Halliburton for dealings with countries such = as Iran, Iraq and Libya, cited by Washington as state sponsors of = terrorism or members of the so-called "axis of evil".=20 ------=_NextPart_001_0091_01C3167C.C1D19700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The drama with = Halliburton=20 continues... the scary part is all these stories are in the mainstream = media.=20 The scarier part is that the American people don't seem to have much = reaction to=20 it.
 
Halliburton admits it = paid=20 Nigerian bribe
Fri May 9, 1:51 PM ET
Add = Top Stories - AFP to My=20 = Yahoo!

WASHINGTON (AFP) - Oil services giant Halliburton, = already=20 under fire over accusations that its White house ties helped win a major = Iraqi=20 oil contract, has admitted that a subsidiary paid a multi-million dollar = bribe=20 to a Nigerian tax official.


AFP Photo=20

 

Halliburton, once run by Vice President Richard Cheney, revealed the = illicit=20 payments, worth 2.4 million dollars, in a filing Thursday with the = Securities=20 and Exchange Commission (news=20 - web = sites) (SEC).=20

"The payments were made to obtain favorable tax treatment and clearly = violated our code of business conduct and our internal control = procedures,"=20 Halliburton said.=20

Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg Brown and Root (KBR), which paid the = bribe,=20 has been in the political spotlight since it was awarded a no-bid US = government=20 oil contract in Iraq (news=20 - web=20 sites) in March.=20

KBR is building a liquefied natural gas plant and an offshore oil and = gas=20 terminal in Nigeria.=20

Halliburton told the SEC the bribe was discovered during an audit of = KBR's=20 Nigerian office.=20

The payments were made in 2001 and 2002, Halliburton spokeswoman = Zelma Branch=20 told AFP's business ethics news service, AFX Global Ethics Monitor.=20

Cheney led the company as chief executive from 1995 until August = 2000, when=20 he became President George W. Bush (news=20 - web=20 sites)'s running mate.=20

"Based on the findings of the investigation we have terminated = several=20 employees," Halliburton said in the filing, adding that none of its = senior=20 officers was involved in the bribe.=20

"We are cooperating with the SEC in its review of the matter," = Halliburton=20 said.=20

"We plan to take further action to ensure that our foreign subsidiary = pays=20 all taxes owed in Nigeria, which may be as much as an additional five = million=20 dollars, which has been fully accrued."=20

Halliburton said its code of business conduct and internal control = procedures=20 were "essential" to the way it ran its business.=20

The group is already facing questions over its business in Iraq and = its=20 accounting practices.=20

On Tuesday, a US lawmaker said the military had revealed for the = first time=20 that KBR had a contract encompassing the operation of Iraqi oil fields.=20

Previously, the US Army Corps of Engineers had described the contract = given=20 to Halliburton as involving oil well firefighting.=20

But in a May 2 letter replying to questions from Henry Waxman, a = Democrat,=20 the army said the contract also included "operation of facilities and=20 distribution of products."=20

Waxman, the top-ranking Democrat in the House of Representatives' = committee=20 on government reform, asked for an explanation.=20

"These new disclosures are significant and they seem at odds with the = administration's repeated assurances that the Iraqi oil belongs to the = Iraqi=20 people," Waxman said.=20

The Army Corps of Engineers had said it decided to forgo competitive = bidding=20 on the first contract because of time constraints.=20

But in a May 2 letter responding to questions from Waxman, military = programs=20 chief Lieutenant General Robert Flowers said the military assigned the = work to=20 KBR's services division in November 2002, under a pre-existing contract = for the=20 firm to provide logistical support to the US Army worldwide.=20

Waxman has also criticized Halliburton for dealings with countries = such as=20 Iran, Iraq and Libya, cited by Washington as state sponsors of terrorism = or=20 members of the so-called "axis of evil". =

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G -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [OPIRG-EVENTS] Thurs May 15th Anti-capitalist Community Action (ACA) General Meeting Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 05:22:29 -0700 From: digitalindependence at riseup.net Reply-To: digitalindependence at riseup.net To: ftaaott at yahoogroups.com, aca-list at mutualaid.org, opirg-events at ox.org, npi-ott at openflows.org Anti-capitalist Community Action (ACA) General Meeting Time: Thursday May 15 @ 7PM Place: Room 101, Jack Purcell Community Centre, 320 Elgin Street All are welcome! -------------------------------------------------------------------- What is ACA? Anti-capitalist Community Action (ACA) is an Ottawa and Gatineau based group focusing on local struggles and global struggles against capitalism and imperialism. ACA works in solidarity with other groups such as the Ottawa Coalition Against the Tories (OCAT) and TAO Communications. We support a diversity of tactics and we have adopted the hallmarks of the Peoples' Global Action . Basis of Unity As a starting framework, ACA has adopted the People's Global Action* hallmarks as our basis of unity: 1. A very clear rejection of capitalism, imperialism and feudalism; all trade agreements, institutions and governments that promote destructive globalization. 2. We reject all forms and systems of domination and discrimination including, but not limited to, patriarchy, racism and religious fundamentalism of all creeds. We embrace the full dignity of all human beings. 3. A confrontational attitude, since we do not think that lobbying can have a major impact in such biased and undemocratic organizations, in which transnational capital is the only real policy-maker; 4. A call to direct action and civil disobedience, support for social movements' struggles, advocating forms of resistance which maximize respect for life and oppressed peoples' rights, as well as the construction of local alternatives to global capitalism. 5. An organizational philosophy based on decentralization and autonomy. Some of ACA's Projects We have a number of projects you can get involved with: * Direct Action Casework Ottawa. We are working on developing a program of direct action casework to prevent deportations and evictions. This strategy has been used successfully by the Ontario Coalition Against Poverty. Direct action gets the goods! * Popular Education. We are doing a series of Free Schools, talks and workshops to educate the public and ourselves about the issues which concern us. * Copwatch. Street level monitoring of police treatment of the homeless and vulnerable members of our society. Help us document and stop police brutality in Ottawa. * Latin American Solidarity. We will be building links with the local Latin American community as well as connecting with anti-capitalist struggles throughout the hemisphere. * Housing Issues. ACA was one of the groups responsible for the squat action at 246 Gilmour Street. More militant housing actions are planned for the future. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anti-capitalist Community Action / Action Communautaire Anti-capitaliste (ACA) http://www.a-c-a.net info at a-c-a.net (613) 237-0730 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - This is the OPIRG-events at ox.org list. Participatory activist events only. To unsubscribe, send email to opirg-events-request at ox.org, and put "unsubscribe" in the body. Archive at: http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/lists/html/opirg-events/ -- "So raise your hands in the air like you're born again But make a fist for the struggle we was born to win" -The Coup ft. Dead Prez, Get Up! From tina_windsor at isic.org Sun May 11 11:45:45 2003 From: tina_windsor at isic.org (tina_windsor at isic.org) Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 15:45:45 +0000 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] concert, concert, concert Message-ID: <1052667945.3ebe7029294f5@www.isiconnect.ekit.com> hi everybody, um i don't know if anyone has looked into using the odessy theater stage in strathcona park, but it's a beautiful setting and it's outdoors and i was in a concert there last year and they didn't seem to mind having particularly loud music playing. i also don't think it's too expensive. the only down side is if it rains there's nowhere to go. anyway, just an idea. tina ____________________________________________________________________ ISIConnect - the global phonecard with more! Keeping you in touch at home and around the world. Visit http://www.isic.org for details. From shahnaz_mouhamou at hotmail.com Sun May 11 13:00:14 2003 From: shahnaz_mouhamou at hotmail.com (Shahnaz Mouhamou) Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 13:00:14 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Re: concert/desperate Message-ID: thx ...it would be a good place 2 hgave it but its outdoors and were trying to make money....people wont pay if the can see it out in the open. the night clubs are out of the question, not only have we waited 2 long but the ones that do have an opening are very very expensive..in the 2000$..its pointless....our next option is canterburry or a high auditorium...cant(the best i think) to hold it at. we need an adult representative and Cant. student..kess? im gonna call 2morrow morning..we weill have 2 do it thru a school organization 2 have it for free. we can also make money thru selling beverages and snacks. its our best and last bet. we need something by wed...or the concert has to be annulled.we can also try a community center....i need somebody to call a couple community centers in the area..i cant do this on my own.....will somebody please take that responsibility..email me 2 let me know...and call b4 the meeting on tuesday. member....nuthing by wednsday..no concert asnwer soon shahnaz >From: tina_windsor at isic.org >To: >Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] concert, concert, concert >Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 15:45:45 +0000 > >hi everybody, >um i don't know if anyone has looked into using the odessy >theater stage in strathcona park, but it's a beautiful setting and >it's outdoors and i was in a concert there last year and they didn't >seem to mind having particularly loud music playing. i also don't >think it's too expensive. the only down side is if it rains there's >nowhere to go. >anyway, just an idea. > >tina > >____________________________________________________________________ >ISIConnect - the global phonecard with more! >Keeping you in touch at home and around the world. >Visit http://www.isic.org for details. >_______________________________________________ >Oosaw-eoocg mailing list >Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca >http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From alexrobinson at rogers.com Sun May 11 13:12:11 2003 From: alexrobinson at rogers.com (Alex Robinson) Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 13:12:11 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] concert Message-ID: <005b01c317e0$76aa6ee0$6401a8c0@Alex> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C317BE.EEE117A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, I am pretty sure that Ashbury has a place that we could hold the = concert. I am sure that they would be willing to let us use it. Has = anyone called Bumpers yet to see how much that costs? -Alex ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C317BE.EEE117A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey,
 
I am pretty sure that Ashbury has a = place that we=20 could hold the concert.  I am sure that they would be willing to = let us use=20 it. Has anyone called Bumpers yet to see how much that = costs?
 
-Alex
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Sure, I'll ask on monday if we can use the Canterbury Auditorium, but I think everyone (if their school has good space) should ask about theirs. (just in case)


~Kess
 
_______________________________________________________________________
Ottawa Outaouais Students Against War
 
 
 
 


Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. From deforgeo_thinking at hotmail.com Sun May 11 18:46:44 2003 From: deforgeo_thinking at hotmail.com (Michael DeForge) Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 18:46:44 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] concert Message-ID: We can ask Ashbury, but if I'm not mistaken, our beloved headmaster is a royal asshole who tends not to think that school property is an appropriate forum to voice opinions. >From: "Alex Robinson" >To: "OOSAW" >Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] concert >Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 13:12:11 -0400 > >Hey, > >I am pretty sure that Ashbury has a place that we could hold the concert. >I am sure that they would be willing to let us use it. Has anyone called >Bumpers yet to see how much that costs? > >-Alex _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From bananamonkey_cab at hotmail.com Sun May 11 20:59:02 2003 From: bananamonkey_cab at hotmail.com (** dalal **) Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 20:59:02 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] concert Message-ID:



All rooms sound like a great plan! At this point anything would be good and something that we don't have to pay money for would be even better.  A school is convinient because usually they have the capacity for shows and whatnot... So if everyone could ask at their school  by Tuesday that would be great and then from there we can pick the best option!
thanks,
Dalal


MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* From shahnaz_mouhamou at hotmail.com Sun May 11 23:32:15 2003 From: shahnaz_mouhamou at hotmail.com (Shahnaz Mouhamou) Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 23:32:15 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] concert Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_72b8_46ed_40fe Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed perfect..do that! :) >From: "** dalal **" >To: deforgeo_thinking at hotmail.com, oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca >Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] concert >Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 20:59:02 -0400 > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------=_NextPart_000_72b8_46ed_40fe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "** dalal **" Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] concert Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 20:59:02 -0400 Size: 2876 Url: http://lists.cupe.ca/pipermail/oosaw-eoocg/attachments/20030511/c5b8d1f8/attachment.eml ------=_NextPart_000_72b8_46ed_40fe-- From b.hassan at sympatico.ca Mon May 12 15:46:14 2003 From: b.hassan at sympatico.ca (Baalqis Hassan) Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 15:46:14 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Re: concert/desperate References: Message-ID: <001d01c318bf$26dddc00$40d4e2d1@y3t6z7> Can we try and get a high school in the downtown-ish area? Lisgar Glebe I'm not sure what else ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shahnaz Mouhamou" To: ; Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 1:00 PM Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Re: concert/desperate > > > thx ...it would be a good place 2 hgave it but its outdoors and were trying > to make money....people wont pay if the can see it out in the open. > > the night clubs are out of the question, not only have we waited 2 long but > the ones that do have an opening are very very expensive..in the 2000$..its > pointless....our next option is canterburry or a high auditorium...cant(the > best i think) to hold it at. we need an adult representative and Cant. > student..kess? im gonna call 2morrow morning..we weill have 2 do it thru a > school organization 2 have it for free. we can also make money thru selling > beverages and snacks. its our best and last bet. we need something by > wed...or the concert has to be annulled.we can also try a community > center....i need somebody to call a couple community centers in the area..i > cant do this on my own.....will somebody please take that > responsibility..email me 2 let me know...and call b4 the meeting on tuesday. > member....nuthing by wednsday..no concert > asnwer soon > shahnaz > >From: tina_windsor at isic.org > >To: > >Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] concert, concert, concert > >Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 15:45:45 +0000 > > > >hi everybody, > >um i don't know if anyone has looked into using the odessy > >theater stage in strathcona park, but it's a beautiful setting and > >it's outdoors and i was in a concert there last year and they didn't > >seem to mind having particularly loud music playing. i also don't > >think it's too expensive. the only down side is if it rains there's > >nowhere to go. > >anyway, just an idea. > > > >tina > > > >____________________________________________________________________ > >ISIConnect - the global phonecard with more! > >Keeping you in touch at home and around the world. > >Visit http://www.isic.org for details. > >_______________________________________________ > >Oosaw-eoocg mailing list > >Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca > >http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > _______________________________________________ > Oosaw-eoocg mailing list > Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca > http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg From digitalerica at rogers.com Tue May 13 14:56:08 2003 From: digitalerica at rogers.com (Erica Woolley) Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 14:56:08 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] matt good CD Message-ID: <00ba01c31981$51089b60$8213c018@slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B7_01C3195F.C970B460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I wanted to recommend to all of you a great CD. I don't buy CD's anymore = but I spent the best $14.99 I have in a long time and bought Canadian = band "Matthew Good Band - Avalanche". I went through the CD and I must = say this is the best CD probably since I last heard Pink Floyd. Pink = Floyd cannot be measured (I'm a die hard fan) but this one is definitely = a modern version that is along similar lines. Very intense and not just = for the younger generation. You may have seen his videos or songs - Weapon & A World Called = Catastrophe (you can view the video at: http://www.matthewgood.net/)=20 He's a hometown hero in my native Vancouver, BC and saw him play at the = Commodore last year (AMAZING). When given the chance to sell out and = change his image to sell mega records in the US he refused (other = Vancouver band Nickelback on the other hand did). He's truly an artist = and this CD is by far the best he's done to date. I would say in the = mainstream MTV world he's probably the only artist I've seen go all the = way in expressing what the f&%k is going on in the world at this point = in time. For some of you that want a playlist cause you want to download some = MP3's below is the playlist. A definate worthwhile purchase and even the = lyrics are worth checking out alone = (http://www.lyred.com/lyrics/Matthew+Good+Band/Avalanche/). Pledge of Allegiance*=20 Lullaby for the New World Order* Weapon* In A World Called Catastrophe * Avalanche* 21st Century Living *** - my favourite on the CD While We Were Hunting Rabbits Bright End of Nowhere* Near Fantastica Song For the Girl Double Life=20 A Long Way Down House of Smoke & Mirrors * * My Favourites Cheers Erica ------=_NextPart_000_00B7_01C3195F.C970B460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I wanted to recommend to all of you a = great CD. I=20 don't buy CD's anymore but I spent the best $14.99 I have in a long time = and=20 bought Canadian band "Matthew Good Band  - Avalanche". I went = through=20 the CD and I must say this is the best CD probably since I last heard = Pink=20 Floyd. Pink Floyd cannot be measured (I'm a die hard fan) but this one = is=20 definitely a modern version that is along similar lines. Very intense = and not=20 just for the younger generation.
 
You may have seen his videos or songs - = Weapon & A World Called Catastrophe (you can view the video at: = http://www.matthewgood.net/)=20
 
He's a hometown hero in my native = Vancouver, BC and=20 saw him play at the Commodore last year (AMAZING). When given the chance = to sell=20 out and change his image to sell mega records in the US he refused = (other=20 Vancouver band Nickelback on the other hand did). He's truly an = artist and=20 this CD is by far the best he's done to date. I would say in the = mainstream MTV=20 world he's probably the only artist I've seen go all the way in = expressing what=20 the f&%k is going on in the world at this point in=20 time.
 
For some of you that want a playlist = cause you want=20 to download some MP3's below is the playlist. A definate worthwhile = purchase and=20 even the lyrics are worth checking out alone (http://= www.lyred.com/lyrics/Matthew+Good+Band/Avalanche/).
 
Pledge of Allegiance*
Lullaby for the New World = Order*
Weapon*
In A World Called Catastrophe = *
Avalanche*
21st Century Living *** - my = favourite on=20 the CD
While We Were Hunting = Rabbits
Bright End of Nowhere*
Near Fantastica
Song For the Girl
Double Life
A Long Way = Down
House of Smoke & Mirrors = *
* My Favourites
 
Cheers
 
Erica
------=_NextPart_000_00B7_01C3195F.C970B460-- From gwen at nocog.org Wed May 14 23:27:52 2003 From: gwen at nocog.org (Gwen) Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 23:27:52 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Announce - [Fwd: [OPIRG-EVENTS] Sat 24th - Park Party - Tech WALLup!] Message-ID: <3EC30938.1010100@nocog.org> Hey, You know that legal grafitti wall when you're coing into Centertown from the east? I tihnk it's just at the begining of Slater. There's a soccer field and a basketball court and some other stuff there too. Every time I go by there's people there playing, but the disgusting force of gentrification wants to build condos there bcause the space is "unused"! Hope to see everyone at the defensive party! BTW, in regards to violence, consider whether this sort of action (on the part of developers) is a sort of violence against the poor. Gwen -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [OPIRG-EVENTS] Sat 24th - Park Party - Tech WALLup! Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 13:28:06 -0400 From: Jamie Kneen Reply-To: Jamie Kneen To: OPIRG events listings Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 22:42:33 +0100 (BST) From: osez linda Party to save well-used Green space Tech WALLup! (the community with HUGE impact) "a movement of the people to celebrate and save the last recreational gathering space of the downtown core" "lets show the city this greenspace matters" this is part of a campaign to keep that parc a parc, and to stop the plans to sell all "un-used" space down town to rich folks so they can build more unaffordable condos. Saturday May 24, 2003 Ottawa Tech Grounds Bronson at Slater Volunteers Sign up at NORML There will be... *free bbq catered by Mr. Dave Smith *Workshops for Kids (sports, dance, art) *Skateboard contest (all ages) *Live music (bands, drum circles, busking) *Breakdancing *Basketball *Soccer *Hope youth volleyball *Gardening *ICE CREAM! *Live painting That evening there will be Beats and Piecez at Babylon Nightclub. Be there or be a condo building square! - This is the OPIRG-events at ox.org list. Participatory activist events only. To unsubscribe, send email to opirg-events-request at ox.org, and put "unsubscribe" in the body. Archive at: http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/lists/html/opirg-events/ -- (A) From gwen at nocog.org Wed May 14 23:31:55 2003 From: gwen at nocog.org (Gwen) Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 23:31:55 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Announce - [Fwd: [OPIRG-EVENTS] Lesbians and human rights in Guatemala, May 20 @ 7 pm] Message-ID: <3EC30A2B.3030007@nocog.org> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [OPIRG-EVENTS] Lesbians and human rights in Guatemala, May 20 @ 7 pm Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 09:50:47 -0400 From: Len Bush Reply-To: Len Bush To: 'opirg-event at ox.org' Lesbians rights and human rights in Guatemala: An evening with Claudia Acevedo Claudia Acevedo is the coordinator of "Lesbiradas", the only lesbian organisation in Guatemala. She'll share with us her insights regarding the fight for human rights by Guatemalan lesbians in a country where militarism, racism, poverty, violence against women and homophobia pose enormous challenges to activists committed to social justice. When? Tuesday, May 20th, 7:00 - 10:00 pm Where? Acension Anglican Church, 253 Echo Dr. Music (m?sica!) and refreshments will follow Claudia's discussion. (Donations encouraged!) Co-sponsors: Egale Canada, The Guatemalan Solidarity Committee of Ottawa (Guasco) and Amnesty International ______________________________________________________ Droits des lesbiennes, droits de la personne au Guatemala : Une soir?e avec Claudia Acevedo Claudia Acevedo coordonne "Lesbiradas", seule organisation lesbienne du Guatemala. Elle partagera avec nous ses vues concernant la lutte pour les droits humains des lesbiennes au Guatemala, un pays o? le militarisme, le racisme, la pauvret?, la violence faite aux femmes et l'homophobie posent des d?fis ?normes au militantisme pour la justice sociale. Quand? Mardi, le 20 mai, 19h00 jusqu'au 22h00 O?? Ascension Anglican Church, 253 Echo Dr. Il y aura de la musique (m?sica!) et des rafra?chissements suite ? la pr?sentation de Claudia. (Vos dons seront les bienvenus pour permettre de couvrir les co?ts de cet ?v?nement). Co-parrain? par : ?gale Canada, The Guatemalan Solidarity Committee of Ottawa (Guasco) et Amnistie Internationale ______________________________________________________ Len Bush National Representative National Union of Public and General Employees 15 Auriga Drive, Nepean, ON, Canada, K2E 1B7 (613) 228-9800 / (613) 228-9801 (fax) lbush at nupge.ca / www.nupge.ca ______________________________________________________ - This is the OPIRG-events at ox.org list. Participatory activist events only. To unsubscribe, send email to opirg-events-request at ox.org, and put "unsubscribe" in the body. Archive at: http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/lists/html/opirg-events/ -- (A) From gwen at nocog.org Wed May 14 23:33:25 2003 From: gwen at nocog.org (Gwen) Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 23:33:25 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Announce - Seven Year Squat Benefit Message-ID: <3EC30A85.3060909@nocog.org> Hey, This is 19+, whcih sucks muchly... I don't know who's working the doors though. I thought I'd pass this on regardless. Let's keep our activists out of jail! G Seven Year Squat Benefit: Friday, May 23, 8pm, Bumper's, 580 Bank Street The Ottawa-Outaouais General Defence Committee presents a benefit concert to raise funds for the legal defence of the Seven Year Squat defendants. The show will feature Dave Bleakney, Sunday Riot, and The Super Fishels. Doors open at 8pm, 19+, $5 at the door, with all proceeds going to the Seven Year Squat legal defence. For more information, contact emak_bakia at hotmail.com. -- (A) From gwen at nocog.org Wed May 14 23:52:30 2003 From: gwen at nocog.org (Gwen) Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 23:52:30 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] matt good CD In-Reply-To: <00ba01c31981$51089b60$8213c018@slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> References: <00ba01c31981$51089b60$8213c018@slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Message-ID: <3EC30EFE.301@nocog.org> Hey, Rap and hip hop are great sources of political thought. I'm not going to go into playlists, because there's far too much excellent matieral out there, so I'll just post a list of artists... If you relaly want specific song reccomendations I can do that, but for the most part you can just downlaod whatever you find and it's good. Asterisks beside the VERY best artists: Arrested Development Atmosphere Black Star (Black Star is Talib Kweli & Mos Def) Common (Have some excellent stuff and some not so great stuff) Dangelo *Dead Prez (Very intelligent) Dialated Peoples Dream Warriors *Gil Scott-Heron (Influence heavily by The Last Poets, GSH invented hip-hop in the 70s) Guru KRS-One Mos Def Non Phixon Paris Poor Righteous Teachers Public Enemy (Classic!) Roots Sarah Jones *Spearhead (Awesome, joyful, revolutionary, happy music) Taalam Acey (More of a spokenword artist, really) Talib Kweli *The Coup (Very very very good, but I hear they're Maoists) *The Disposible Heroes of Hiphoprisy (share lead singer Michale Franti (and I think other members) with Spearhead; older and harder to find but incredibly worth it) *The Last Poets (These guys invented rap in the 60s/70s) X-Clan Zion-I Gwen Erica Woolley wrote: > I wanted to recommend to all of you a great CD. I don't buy CD's anymore > but I spent the best $14.99 I have in a long time and bought Canadian > band "Matthew Good Band - Avalanche". I went through the CD and I must > say this is the best CD probably since I last heard Pink Floyd. Pink > Floyd cannot be measured (I'm a die hard fan) but this one is definitely > a modern version that is along similar lines. Very intense and not just > for the younger generation. > > You may have seen his videos or songs - Weapon & A World Called > Catastrophe (you can view the video at: http://www.matthewgood.net/) > > He's a hometown hero in my native Vancouver, BC and saw him play at the > Commodore last year (AMAZING). When given the chance to sell out and > change his image to sell mega records in the US he refused (other > Vancouver band Nickelback on the other hand did). He's truly an artist > and this CD is by far the best he's done to date. I would say in the > mainstream MTV world he's probably the only artist I've seen go all the > way in expressing what the f&%k is going on in the world at this point > in time. > > For some of you that want a playlist cause you want to download some > MP3's below is the playlist. A definate worthwhile purchase and even the > lyrics are worth checking out alone > (http://www.lyred.com/lyrics/Matthew+Good+Band/Avalanche/). > > Pledge of Allegiance* > Lullaby for the New World Order* > Weapon* > In A World Called Catastrophe * > Avalanche* > 21st Century Living *** - *my favourite on the CD* > While We Were Hunting Rabbits > Bright End of Nowhere* > Near Fantastica > Song For the Girl > Double Life > A Long Way Down > House of Smoke & Mirrors * > * My Favourites > > Cheers > > Erica -- (A) From gwen at nocog.org Thu May 15 15:36:34 2003 From: gwen at nocog.org (Gwen) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 15:36:34 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] [Fwd: [Aca-list] police offer reward to identify ant-war protetsors] Message-ID: <3EC3EC42.5090507@nocog.org> I like the way this article doesn't even say what they were arrested for... It's up to the dutiful citizen to assume the coppers were doing their jobs hassling some punk kids at a demo. Gwen -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Aca-list] police offer reward to identify ant-war protetsors Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 15:11:26 -0400 From: Dave Bleakney To: Hey, wanna make some cash??? http://www.katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=57528 May 14, 2003 Police offering reward to identify anti-war protesters Portland police are offering a reward for your help in identifying several anti-war protestors. Police arrested several dozen people during the recent anti-war protests - but some of those taken into custody - didn't carry identification and refused to give their real names. "Jane Doe" was arrested on March 21st. Police believe she's in her 20's. She's approximately 5 foot 3 inches tall and weighs roughly 155 pounds. "John Doe" was arrested on March 25th. He also appears to be in his 20's He's is approximately 6 foot 1 and weighs about 185 pounds. If you have any information on their whereabouts please call Portland police. Dave Bleakney National Union Representative Canadian Union of Postal Workers 377 Bank Street Ottawa, Ontario Canada K2P 1Y3 Ph: 613-236-7230 ext 7953 Fax: 613-561-7861 dbleakney at cupw-sttp.org http://www.agp.org http://www.cupw-sttp.org _______________________________________________ Aca-list mailing list Aca-list at lists.mutualaid.org http://lists.mutualaid.org/mailman/listinfo/aca-list free hosting provided by http://www.mutualaid.org/ -- (A) From gwen at nocog.org Thu May 15 15:53:12 2003 From: gwen at nocog.org (Gwen) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 15:53:12 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Announce - [Fwd: [OPIRG-EVENTS] Secret Trials in Canada - Thursday, May 29th] Message-ID: <3EC3F028.5000809@nocog.org> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [OPIRG-EVENTS] Secret Trials in Canada - Thursday, May 29th Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 14:07:47 -0400 From: Jamie Kneen Reply-To: Jamie Kneen To: OPIRG events listings SECRET TRIALS IN CANADA: A Panel Event on The Security Certificate and the Attack on Immigrants and Refugees **************************************** 7:00pm Thursday, May 29th, 2003 PSAC Boardroom 233 Gilmour St. (btw Metcalfe and Elgin) **************************************** The Canadian government is perpetrating a coordinated assault on the rights and freedoms of immigrants, refugees and non-status individuals and communities. With new legislation being tabled and old legislation being updated, we are entering a new era of repression and injustice. FIGHT BACK AGAINST RACIST ATTACKS ON IMMIGRANTS AND REFUGEES! DEMAND AN END TO THE SECURITY CERTIFICATE! Direct Action Casework Ottawa invites you to an evening of discussion, strategy and resistance. Speakers will include: Sophie Lamarche-Harkat (wife of Mohamed Harkat) Matthew Behrens (Homes Not Bombs) Amina Sherazee (counsel for the Canadian Arab Federation) Rocco Galati (lawyer for Mohamed Harkat) For more information, please contact: Direct Action Casework Ottawa at (613) 786 1015 or daco at ziplip.com. - This is the OPIRG-events at ox.org list. Participatory activist events only. To unsubscribe, send email to opirg-events-request at ox.org, and put "unsubscribe" in the body. Archive at: http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/lists/html/opirg-events/ -- (A) From b.hassan at sympatico.ca Thu May 15 17:22:39 2003 From: b.hassan at sympatico.ca (Baalqis Hassan) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 17:22:39 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Announce - [Fwd: [OPIRG-EVENTS] Sat 24th - Park Party - Tech WALLup!] References: <3EC30938.1010100@nocog.org> Message-ID: <000c01c31b28$1e176f80$9db9d1d8@y3t6z7> Hey Yeah I heard about that people should go. There's going to some king of skate contest or something. There's also going to be a lot of live music, stuff like that. Theatre too, I think. -Baalqis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gwen" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 11:27 PM Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Announce - [Fwd: [OPIRG-EVENTS] Sat 24th - Park Party - Tech WALLup!] > Hey, > > You know that legal grafitti wall when you're coing into Centertown from > the east? I tihnk it's just at the begining of Slater. There's a > soccer field and a basketball court and some other stuff there too. > Every time I go by there's people there playing, but the disgusting > force of gentrification wants to build condos there bcause the space is > "unused"! > > Hope to see everyone at the defensive party! > > BTW, in regards to violence, consider whether this sort of action (on > the part of developers) is a sort of violence against the poor. > > Gwen > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [OPIRG-EVENTS] Sat 24th - Park Party - Tech WALLup! > Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 13:28:06 -0400 > From: Jamie Kneen > Reply-To: Jamie Kneen > To: OPIRG events listings > > > Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 22:42:33 +0100 (BST) > From: osez linda > > > Party to save well-used Green space > > Tech WALLup! > (the community with HUGE impact) > "a movement of the people to celebrate and save the last recreational > gathering space of the downtown core" > "lets show the city this greenspace matters" > this is part of a campaign to keep that parc a parc, and to stop the > plans to sell all "un-used" space down town to rich folks so they can > build more unaffordable condos. > Saturday May 24, 2003 > Ottawa Tech Grounds > Bronson at Slater > Volunteers Sign up at NORML > > There will be... > *free bbq catered by Mr. Dave Smith > *Workshops for Kids (sports, dance, art) > *Skateboard contest (all ages) > *Live music (bands, drum circles, busking) > *Breakdancing > *Basketball > *Soccer > *Hope youth volleyball > *Gardening > *ICE CREAM! > *Live painting > > That evening there will be Beats and Piecez at Babylon Nightclub. > > Be there or be a condo building square! > - > This is the OPIRG-events at ox.org list. Participatory activist events only. > To unsubscribe, send email to opirg-events-request at ox.org, and put > "unsubscribe" in the body. > Archive at: http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/lists/html/opirg-events/ > > > -- > > > (A) > > _______________________________________________ > Oosaw-eoocg mailing list > Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca > http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg From deforgeo_thinking at hotmail.com Thu May 15 19:07:36 2003 From: deforgeo_thinking at hotmail.com (Michael DeForge) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 19:07:36 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] matt good CD Message-ID: You might also want to check out http://www.frontalot.com MC Frontalot is usually a jokey "nerdcore" artist, but the latest track is a pretty decent anti-war song. It's all free, so it's worth a listen. I'll also second the Norah Jones reccomendation. Some anti-war rock artists you might also be interested in are Cat Power and Sleater-Kinney (the latter has an amazing track called Combat Rock, an obvious nod to the Clash album of the same name, directly addressing the war in Iraq.) And of course, Radiohead's new album is hitting North America later in June, called "Hail to the Theif" (it isn't hard to guess what that's about.) >From: Gwen >To: oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca >Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] matt good CD >Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 23:52:30 -0400 > >Hey, > >Rap and hip hop are great sources of political thought. I'm not going to >go into playlists, because there's far too much excellent matieral out >there, so I'll just post a list of artists... If you relaly want specific >song reccomendations I can do that, but for the most part you can just >downlaod whatever you find and it's good. Asterisks beside the VERY best >artists: > >Arrested Development >Atmosphere >Black Star (Black Star is Talib Kweli & Mos Def) >Common (Have some excellent stuff and some not so great stuff) >Dangelo >*Dead Prez (Very intelligent) >Dialated Peoples >Dream Warriors >*Gil Scott-Heron (Influence heavily by The Last Poets, GSH invented > hip-hop in the 70s) >Guru >KRS-One >Mos Def >Non Phixon >Paris >Poor Righteous Teachers >Public Enemy (Classic!) >Roots >Sarah Jones >*Spearhead (Awesome, joyful, revolutionary, happy music) >Taalam Acey (More of a spokenword artist, really) >Talib Kweli >*The Coup (Very very very good, but I hear they're Maoists) >*The Disposible Heroes of Hiphoprisy (share lead singer Michale Franti > (and I think other members) with Spearhead; older and harder to > find but incredibly worth it) >*The Last Poets (These guys invented rap in the 60s/70s) >X-Clan >Zion-I > >Gwen > >Erica Woolley wrote: >>I wanted to recommend to all of you a great CD. I don't buy CD's anymore >>but I spent the best $14.99 I have in a long time and bought Canadian band >>"Matthew Good Band - Avalanche". I went through the CD and I must say >>this is the best CD probably since I last heard Pink Floyd. Pink Floyd >>cannot be measured (I'm a die hard fan) but this one is definitely a >>modern version that is along similar lines. Very intense and not just for >>the younger generation. >> You may have seen his videos or songs - Weapon & A World Called >>Catastrophe (you can view the video at: http://www.matthewgood.net/) >> He's a hometown hero in my native Vancouver, BC and saw him play at the >>Commodore last year (AMAZING). When given the chance to sell out and >>change his image to sell mega records in the US he refused (other >>Vancouver band Nickelback on the other hand did). He's truly an artist and >>this CD is by far the best he's done to date. I would say in the >>mainstream MTV world he's probably the only artist I've seen go all the >>way in expressing what the f&%k is going on in the world at this point in >>time. >> For some of you that want a playlist cause you want to download some >>MP3's below is the playlist. A definate worthwhile purchase and even the >>lyrics are worth checking out alone >>(http://www.lyred.com/lyrics/Matthew+Good+Band/Avalanche/). >> Pledge of Allegiance* >>Lullaby for the New World Order* >>Weapon* >>In A World Called Catastrophe * >>Avalanche* >>21st Century Living *** - *my favourite on the CD* >>While We Were Hunting Rabbits >>Bright End of Nowhere* >>Near Fantastica >>Song For the Girl >>Double Life >>A Long Way Down >>House of Smoke & Mirrors * >>* My Favourites >> Cheers >> Erica > >-- > > >(A) > >_______________________________________________ >Oosaw-eoocg mailing list >Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca >http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From alexrobinson at rogers.com Thu May 15 19:25:23 2003 From: alexrobinson at rogers.com (Alex Robinson) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 19:25:23 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] anti-war music Message-ID: <002101c31b39$42cb4750$6401a8c0@Alex> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C31B17.BB048820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here are a few bands that have anti-war stances that are worth a listen: -Thought Riot -The Code (who are playing at Saw in June) -Rise Against -Pipedown -Strike Anywhere -Destruction Made Simple -Propagandhi -Against Me -Experiment In Terror (local band -> http://terror.cjb.net/) -Alex ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C31B17.BB048820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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-Thought Riot
-The Code (who are playing at Saw in=20 June)
-Rise Against
-Pipedown
-Strike Anywhere
-Destruction Made Simple
-Propagandhi
-Against Me
-Experiment In Terror (local band -> = http://terror.cjb.net/)
 
 
-Alex
------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C31B17.BB048820-- From deforgeo_thinking at hotmail.com Thu May 15 19:48:16 2003 From: deforgeo_thinking at hotmail.com (Michael DeForge) Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 19:48:16 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] concert posters- drafts Message-ID: two drafts of posters advertising the concert, just to get feedback. i'll do some more tomorrow. if anyone on the poster commitee, or anyone else, has any designs, comments, criticisms or ideas, feel free to send them off. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From gwen at nocog.org Fri May 16 01:31:30 2003 From: gwen at nocog.org (Gwen) Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 01:31:30 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] anti-war music In-Reply-To: <002101c31b39$42cb4750$6401a8c0@Alex> References: <002101c31b39$42cb4750$6401a8c0@Alex> Message-ID: <3EC477B2.5070604@nocog.org> Man I just discovered Against Me! and I love them! Other then that all I know here are Propaghandi, who are pretty decent themselves, but i'll definately check out the others. (Everyone go get some Against Me! right now though.) Gwen Alex Robinson wrote: > Here are a few bands that have anti-war stances that are worth a listen: > > -Thought Riot > -The Code (who are playing at Saw in June) > -Rise Against > -Pipedown > -Strike Anywhere > -Destruction Made Simple > -Propagandhi > -Against Me > -Experiment In Terror (local band -> http://terror.cjb.net/) > > > -Alex -- (A) From digitalerica at rogers.com Fri May 16 11:19:44 2003 From: digitalerica at rogers.com (Erica Woolley) Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 11:19:44 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Coalition tortured Iraqi POW's Message-ID: <005901c31bbe$94ae6860$8213c018@slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01C31B9D.0D3FB440 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0056_01C31B9D.0D3FB440" ------=_NextPart_001_0056_01C31B9D.0D3FB440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Coalition 'tortured Iraqi POWs' Last Updated: Friday, 16 May, 2003, 13:15 GMT 14:15 UK =20 =20 Troops are accused of beatings and using electric shocks=20 Amnesty International is investigating claims that Iraqi prisoners = of war were tortured by US and British troops.=20 A "substantial proportion" of 20 former Iraqi POWs interviewed by = the human rights group said they had been maltreated by coalition forces = in central and southern Iraq.=20 Some were civilians who were held on suspicion of being Iraqi = militia, Amnesty said. One Saudi Arabian national claimed he was = subjected to electric shocks.=20 The UK's Ministry of Defence said it had not seen any of the = details of the allegations.=20 "All the prisoners held by the British were held under the terms = of the Geneva Convention, and they were frequently visited by members of = the International Red Cross," a spokesman said.=20 In one case we are talking about electric shocks being used = against a man and in others people are being beaten for the whole night=20 Amnesty International =20 The alleged mistreatment included "beatings with fists, with feet, = also with weapons," Amnesty researcher Said Boumedouha said.=20 "In one case we are talking about electric shocks being used = against a man and in others people are being beaten for the whole night = and are still being kicked and their teeth broken. I think you would = call that torture," he said.=20 The man claiming to have received electric shocks was believed to = have been a Saudi man who had entered the country from Syria during the = war and was suspected of being a volunteer for Saddam Hussein.=20 The findings follow Amnesty's first fact-finding mission in Iraq = since 1993.=20 The human rights group said about 6,900 people were detained in = Iraq while they were being assessed for POW status. Of these, about = 1-2,000 remain in custody.=20 An Amnesty spokeswoman told BBC News Online the investigations = into the treatment of PoWs were "at a very early stage".=20 Amnesty workers would be in Iraq for a number of months = investigating a number of areas - including human rights abuses under = Saddam Hussein - she added. =20 ------=_NextPart_001_0056_01C31B9D.0D3FB440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Troops are accused of beatings and using = electric=20 shocks

Amnesty International is investigating claims that Iraqi = prisoners=20 of war were tortured by US and British troops.

A "substantial proportion" of 20 former Iraqi POWs interviewed = by the=20 human rights group said they had been maltreated by coalition = forces in=20 central and southern Iraq.

Some were civilians who were held on suspicion of being Iraqi = militia,=20 Amnesty said. One Saudi Arabian national claimed he was subjected = to=20 electric shocks.

The UK's Ministry of Defence said it had not seen any of the = details of=20 the allegations.

"All the prisoners held by the British were held under the = terms of the=20 Geneva Convention, and they were frequently visited by members of = the=20 International Red Cross," a spokesman said.

3D""=20 In one case we are talking about = electric=20 shocks being used against a man and in others people are = being=20 beaten for the whole night 3D""=20
Amnesty International=20

The alleged mistreatment included "beatings with fists, with = feet, also=20 with weapons," Amnesty researcher Said Boumedouha said.

"In one case we are talking about electric shocks being used = against a=20 man and in others people are being beaten for the whole night and = are=20 still being kicked and their teeth broken. I think you would call = that=20 torture," he said.

The man claiming to have received electric shocks was believed = to have=20 been a Saudi man who had entered the country from Syria during the = war and=20 was suspected of being a volunteer for Saddam Hussein.

The findings follow Amnesty's first fact-finding mission in = Iraq since=20 1993.

The human rights group said about 6,900 people were detained in = Iraq=20 while they were being assessed for POW status. Of these, about = 1-2,000=20 remain in custody.

An Amnesty spokeswoman told BBC News Online the investigations = into the=20 treatment of PoWs were "at a very early stage".

Amnesty workers would be in Iraq for a number of months = investigating a=20 number of areas - including human rights abuses under Saddam = Hussein - she=20 = added.

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Erica World - Reuters (http://www.yahoo.com) =20 =20 Iraqis Say Anarchy Could Lead to Anti-US Violence By Wafa Amr=20 BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraqis said on Friday their patience with U.S. = pledges to restore law and order in Baghdad and to improve the economy = was running thin and fear of lawlessness could lead to anti-American = violence.=20 Iraqis, many hiding in their homes for fear of being robbed, are = now calling for the establishment of any interim government that would = end what many see as growing anarchy.=20 Some Iraqis who had celebrated the downfall of Saddam Hussein = (news - web sites) last month in a U.S.-led invasion now say insecurity = outweighs any feeling of political freedom and liberation.=20 "Under Saddam we lived in fear, now we live in terror from crime = and we live in poverty," said Othman, a taxi driver queuing to fill up = his car with petrol.=20 The absence of law and order was also disrupting the delivery of = humanitarian aid.=20 "We are concerned about the security situation," senior U.N. aid = official Kenzo Oshima told a news conference in Baghdad. "Without = adequate security, the delivery of humanitarian assistance will be = hampered."=20 Iraqis complain that the cost of living has more than doubled in = weeks. While the Iraqi dinar's exchange rate to the dollar has = appreciated, prices of food and petrol have risen.=20 Suha Abdel-Hamid, a wealthy housewife, disappointed with the turn = of events in Iraq (news - web sites), said she is now thinking of = leaving the country in search of a safer and better life.=20 "Saddam was brutal and cruel. He suffocated us but at least he = restored electricity and normality after the 1991 war. What are the = Americans waiting for?" she told Reuters.=20 LIVING IN FEAR=20 Grievances against the Americans for moving slowly to curb crime = and establish a government were widely growing.=20 Wamidh Nazmi, an Iraqi political analyst questioned the logic = behind keeping Baghdad almost in complete darkness and without services = more than three weeks after the war ended.=20 "This is the worst situation in Iraq's modern history. On top of = this there is no sense of security whatsoever. People also want wages," = Nazmi told Reuters.=20 He stood up and pulled a pistol from his pocket and said: "I = simply went to the pharmacy next door to buy medicine, but I needed this = to protect myself."=20 U.S. civil administrator in Iraq Paul Bremer told reporters on = Thursday the security situation was very serious but U.S. troops were = addressing it and conditions were improving.=20 Retired Christian teacher Sabah Yusef said security at the moment = was more important than freedom.=20 "If this anarchy and unemployment continues for another month, = people will rise against the Americans and bring about a more chaotic = situation," he said.=20 Many Iraqis echoed his sentiments.=20 In Baghdad, many women live in fear. Everybody has a story to tell = about the abduction of women from the streets by violent criminals = Saddam freed from jails in an amnesty in October.=20 "I don't allow my sisters outside the house. When I leave home, = I'm worried the criminals will come for my sisters, and when I'm at home = I'm worried they will steal my car, it's impossible to live like this," = said Sa'ad Kathem, an unemployed young man sitting on the street outside = his home.=20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0073_01C31B9E.4F8E1480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Who exactly said the Iraqi people were liberated? The = US may=20 be rethinking that statement.
 
Erica
 
World - Reuters (http://www.yahoo.com)=20
Iraqis Say Anarchy Could Lead = to Anti-US=20 Violence

By Wafa Amr=20

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraqis said on = Friday=20 their patience with U.S. pledges to restore law and order in = Baghdad and=20 to improve the economy was running thin and fear of lawlessness = could lead=20 to anti-American violence.

Iraqis, many hiding in their homes = for fear of=20 being robbed, are now calling for the establishment of any interim = government that would end what many see as growing anarchy.=20

Some Iraqis who had celebrated the downfall of Saddam Hussein = (news=20 - web=20 sites) last month in a U.S.-led invasion now say insecurity = outweighs=20 any feeling of political freedom and liberation.=20

"Under Saddam we lived in fear, now we live in terror from = crime and we=20 live in poverty," said Othman, a taxi driver queuing to fill up = his car=20 with petrol.=20

The absence of law and order was also disrupting the delivery = of=20 humanitarian aid.=20

"We are concerned about the security situation," senior U.N. = aid=20 official Kenzo Oshima told a news conference in Baghdad. "Without = adequate=20 security, the delivery of humanitarian assistance will be = hampered."=20

Iraqis complain that the cost of living has more than doubled = in weeks.=20 While the Iraqi dinar's exchange rate to the dollar has = appreciated,=20 prices of food and petrol have risen.=20

Suha Abdel-Hamid, a wealthy housewife, disappointed with the = turn of=20 events in Iraq (news=20 - web=20 sites), said she is now thinking of leaving the country in = search of a=20 safer and better life.=20

"Saddam was brutal and cruel. He suffocated us but at least he = restored=20 electricity and normality after the 1991 war. What are the = Americans=20 waiting for?" she told Reuters.=20

LIVING IN FEAR=20

Grievances against the Americans for moving slowly to curb = crime and=20 establish a government were widely growing.=20

Wamidh Nazmi, an Iraqi political analyst questioned the logic = behind=20 keeping Baghdad almost in complete darkness and without services = more than=20 three weeks after the war ended.=20

"This is the worst situation in Iraq's modern history. On top = of this=20 there is no sense of security whatsoever. People also want wages," = Nazmi=20 told Reuters.=20

He stood up and pulled a pistol from his pocket and said: "I = simply=20 went to the pharmacy next door to buy medicine, but I needed this = to=20 protect myself."=20

U.S. civil administrator in Iraq Paul Bremer told reporters on = Thursday=20 the security situation was very serious but U.S. troops were = addressing it=20 and conditions were improving.=20

Retired Christian teacher Sabah Yusef said security at the = moment was=20 more important than freedom.=20

"If this anarchy and unemployment continues for another month, = people=20 will rise against the Americans and bring about a more chaotic = situation,"=20 he said.=20

Many Iraqis echoed his sentiments.=20

In Baghdad, many women live in fear. Everybody has a story to = tell=20 about the abduction of women from the streets by violent criminals = Saddam=20 freed from jails in an amnesty in October.=20

"I don't allow my sisters outside the house. When I leave home, = I'm=20 worried the criminals will come for my sisters, and when I'm at = home I'm=20 worried they will steal my car, it's impossible to live like = this," said=20 Sa'ad Kathem, an unemployed young man sitting on the street = outside his=20 home. =

------=_NextPart_000_0073_01C31B9E.4F8E1480-- From gwen at nocog.org Fri May 16 13:04:25 2003 From: gwen at nocog.org (Gwen) Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 13:04:25 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] [Fwd: [Aca-list] Provincial Call To Action: Queens Park Cronies - Unfit to Govern] Message-ID: <3EC51A19.3000701@nocog.org> I find this topical more in our capacity as students than as anti-war activists. It's important to make links to local events in relation to global ones, though. G -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Aca-list] Provincial Call To Action: Queens Park Cronies - Unfit to Govern Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 08:42:26 -0700 From: digitalindependence at riseup.net To: ftaaott at yahoogroups.com, aca-list at mutualaid.org, opirg-events at ox.org, npi-ott at openflows.org + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Ottawa Planning Meeting + + Tuesday, May 20, 2003 + + Ottawa, Ontario + + Location TBA + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + ** To be notified of location and time, please reply off-list. ** ============ BACKGROUND ============ PROVINCIAL CALL TO ACTION QUEENS PARK CRONIES - UNFIT TO GOVERN With the Tories and the Liberals tripping over each other to get tough on crime in a self-imposed competition to get more cops on the street faster, its hard to tell just whos who at Queens Park these days. Clearly concerned with their trailing position in the polls, the Tories throne speech was an exercise in pre-election banality. The Liberal line was simply that the Tories are stealing their ideas. With a the cutting of grass along provincial highways as a major budget highlight, its hard to say why anyone would even want to fight over who thought of such things first. It was however, only two weeks ago that a different Eves unveiled policy plans that included a two year limit on the receipt of welfare, an intensified crackdown on the homeless and the removal of the right of teachers to go on strike. Not to be out-done, fellow Tory Bob Runciman is busy assembling a special police snatch squad and shopping for high security jails to deal with so called illegals and people seeking refuge in Ontario. Already dubbed Common Sense Revolution II, their agenda is becoming clear - OURS IS CLEARER. In 2001, students, workers, First Nations, poor and homeless people organized in the spirit of decency, justice and compassion to defeat the common enemy in Mike Harris. Now that Ontarians are finally rid of him, we have but one message not only for those who would follow in his footsteps, but also for those who would leave his damage unrepaired: "GET OUT!" Huge numbers of people have suffered immeasurably under the Tory Regime. There have been no attempts at redress, nor anything serious from the Opposition to suggest but more of the same. The time has come to take our resistance to their CONSTITUENCY OFFICES, their PUBLIC EVENTS and to the operations of their CORPORATE BACKERS. We need to mobilize a new level of opposition to the implementation of this agenda. In Belleville, the Tenant Action Group has forced the County to step in and maintain hydro for hundreds and hundreds of families who Eves would have seen cut off. In Toronto, provincially owned buildings are being systematically identified and researched. Regardless of when Eves faces the inevitable and calls an election, a movement that is widespread, coordinated, capable of quick, decisive action and that has the Premier and the rest of the Queens Park cronies squarely in its sights, is called for right now. Likewise, a movement that encourages communities to deal both responsibly and compassionately to the real and grievous issues long abandoned by all levels of Government and Parliamentary Parties is also needed When a Government refuses to act in the best interest of such vast segments of the population on such basic items as food and shelters, at some point, it is incumbent on the people to act in their own best interest. We should also make clear right now that whatever the regime that follows, it will get no peace if it leaves the damage done by the Tories unrepaired. The Ontario Common Front and OCAP will go to the next Government from the moment it's formed with our demands for: -HOUSING THAT IS SAFE, ACCESSIBLE AND AFFORDABLE, -a MINIMUM WAGE THAT IS A LIVING WAGE -and a SOCIAL ASSISTANCE SYSTEM THAT ENABLES PEOPLE TO LIVE WITH DIGNITY. We hope others will advance their just demands in the same spirit. Ontario Common Front Belleville, Kingston, Peterborough and elsewhere, we are making plans for a series of actions against the representatives of the Eves Government. There are four immediate ways to get involved: 1. If you live in Toronto and would like to work with OCAP directly, give us a call. We would like to put you on a phone tree/e mail list that can be activated when Eves and accomplices show their heads in this City. 2. If you live elsewhere in the Province, please join with local Ontario Common Front member groups who will be organizing the same kind of 'rapid deployment' mobilizing to go after local political figures. Official election or no, there will be no baby kissing or other such events in Ontario anymore if we can help it. 3. If you work in an area that gives you access to information on Tory plans and events we need you to feed us that information. It's not ratting when the target is Ernie Eves. Think of it as a morally superior version of Crime Stoppers! 4. Please watch for notice of a public meeting and other events coming shortly. We must not allow the Tories to prepare a second Common Sense Revolution. Whatever the political stripe of the Party, policies that serve to maintain hurt and hardship will not go unanswered. The time to act is now. Ontario Common Front OCAP _______________________________________________ Aca-list mailing list Aca-list at lists.mutualaid.org http://lists.mutualaid.org/mailman/listinfo/aca-list free hosting provided by http://www.mutualaid.org/ -- (A) From wallage134 at msn.com Fri May 16 16:18:57 2003 From: wallage134 at msn.com (Sam Ballantyne) Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 20:18:57 +0000 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Peace Concert Message-ID:
Sorry, I misssed a whole bunch of meetings. Peace COncert: Who, What, Where When?


Don't spend your life trying to go somewhere, or be someone. Live life to it's fullest, and somewhere and someone will soon find you.


STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* From kyoto_now at hotmail.com Fri May 16 18:46:04 2003 From: kyoto_now at hotmail.com (Brendan McGrath-Potter) Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 22:46:04 +0000 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] auditions Message-ID: hi, sorry i missed the auditions. i could not find the school. the bus i was told to take didnt go past the school. i ended up at bayshore! anyways hope the auditions went well and i''l see everyone on tuesday brendan _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From alexrobinson at rogers.com Fri May 16 18:52:58 2003 From: alexrobinson at rogers.com (Alex Robinson) Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 18:52:58 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] auditions Message-ID: <000a01c31bfd$e57594f0$6401a8c0@Alex> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C31BDC.5E1ED5A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, Sorry!.. I also didn't make it to the auditions. I got lost. I got to = the hospital and then couldn't find it.. I think that I may have been at = the wrong hospital??? oh well.. hope it went well.. see you all tuesday -Alex ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C31BDC.5E1ED5A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey,
 
Sorry!.. I also didn't make it to the = auditions. I=20 got lost. I got to the hospital and then couldn't find it.. I think that = I may=20 have been at the wrong hospital??? oh well.. hope it went = well..
 
see you all tuesday
 
-Alex
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C31BDC.5E1ED5A0-- From b.hassan at sympatico.ca Sat May 17 13:31:13 2003 From: b.hassan at sympatico.ca (Baalqis Hassan) Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 13:31:13 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] matt good CD References: Message-ID: <001501c31c9a$1e49cc00$5075d1d8@y3t6z7> The Sleater Kinney song is really really good. Also people might also want to check out some stuff by the Clash. Obviously it won't have anything to do with the war on Iraq but they're amazing, one of my favourite bands. -Baalqis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael DeForge" To: Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] matt good CD > You might also want to check out http://www.frontalot.com > > MC Frontalot is usually a jokey "nerdcore" artist, but the latest track is a > pretty decent anti-war song. > > It's all free, so it's worth a listen. I'll also second the Norah Jones > reccomendation. > > Some anti-war rock artists you might also be interested in are Cat Power and > Sleater-Kinney (the latter has an amazing track called Combat Rock, an > obvious nod to the Clash album of the same name, directly addressing the war > in Iraq.) > > And of course, Radiohead's new album is hitting North America later in June, > called "Hail to the Theif" (it isn't hard to guess what that's about.) > > > >From: Gwen > >To: oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca > >Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] matt good CD > >Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 23:52:30 -0400 > > > >Hey, > > > >Rap and hip hop are great sources of political thought. I'm not going to > >go into playlists, because there's far too much excellent matieral out > >there, so I'll just post a list of artists... If you relaly want specific > >song reccomendations I can do that, but for the most part you can just > >downlaod whatever you find and it's good. Asterisks beside the VERY best > >artists: > > > >Arrested Development > >Atmosphere > >Black Star (Black Star is Talib Kweli & Mos Def) > >Common (Have some excellent stuff and some not so great stuff) > >Dangelo > >*Dead Prez (Very intelligent) > >Dialated Peoples > >Dream Warriors > >*Gil Scott-Heron (Influence heavily by The Last Poets, GSH invented > > hip-hop in the 70s) > >Guru > >KRS-One > >Mos Def > >Non Phixon > >Paris > >Poor Righteous Teachers > >Public Enemy (Classic!) > >Roots > >Sarah Jones > >*Spearhead (Awesome, joyful, revolutionary, happy music) > >Taalam Acey (More of a spokenword artist, really) > >Talib Kweli > >*The Coup (Very very very good, but I hear they're Maoists) > >*The Disposible Heroes of Hiphoprisy (share lead singer Michale Franti > > (and I think other members) with Spearhead; older and harder to > > find but incredibly worth it) > >*The Last Poets (These guys invented rap in the 60s/70s) > >X-Clan > >Zion-I > > > >Gwen > > > >Erica Woolley wrote: > >>I wanted to recommend to all of you a great CD. I don't buy CD's anymore > >>but I spent the best $14.99 I have in a long time and bought Canadian band > >>"Matthew Good Band - Avalanche". I went through the CD and I must say > >>this is the best CD probably since I last heard Pink Floyd. Pink Floyd > >>cannot be measured (I'm a die hard fan) but this one is definitely a > >>modern version that is along similar lines. Very intense and not just for > >>the younger generation. > >> You may have seen his videos or songs - Weapon & A World Called > >>Catastrophe (you can view the video at: http://www.matthewgood.net/) > >> He's a hometown hero in my native Vancouver, BC and saw him play at the > >>Commodore last year (AMAZING). When given the chance to sell out and > >>change his image to sell mega records in the US he refused (other > >>Vancouver band Nickelback on the other hand did). He's truly an artist and > >>this CD is by far the best he's done to date. I would say in the > >>mainstream MTV world he's probably the only artist I've seen go all the > >>way in expressing what the f&%k is going on in the world at this point in > >>time. > >> For some of you that want a playlist cause you want to download some > >>MP3's below is the playlist. A definate worthwhile purchase and even the > >>lyrics are worth checking out alone > >>(http://www.lyred.com/lyrics/Matthew+Good+Band/Avalanche/). > >> Pledge of Allegiance* > >>Lullaby for the New World Order* > >>Weapon* > >>In A World Called Catastrophe * > >>Avalanche* > >>21st Century Living *** - *my favourite on the CD* > >>While We Were Hunting Rabbits > >>Bright End of Nowhere* > >>Near Fantastica > >>Song For the Girl > >>Double Life > >>A Long Way Down > >>House of Smoke & Mirrors * > >>* My Favourites > >> Cheers > >> Erica > > > >-- > > > > > >(A) > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Oosaw-eoocg mailing list > >Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca > >http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > _______________________________________________ > Oosaw-eoocg mailing list > Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca > http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg From b.hassan at sympatico.ca Sat May 17 13:33:48 2003 From: b.hassan at sympatico.ca (Baalqis Hassan) Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 13:33:48 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Fw: Reading at Club SAW May 25 2 pm Message-ID: <002801c31c9a$7a69c800$5075d1d8@y3t6z7> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C31C78.F29F8660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Marwan Hassan=20 To: catherine shepherd=20 Cc: Larissa Lai=20 Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 11:18 AM Subject: Re: Reading at Club SAW May 25 2 pm LARISSA LAI, author of the award winning novel, WHEN FOX IS A THOUSAND = and the new novel, SALT FISH GIRL, will be reading in Ottawa on Sunday = May 25th at 2:00 p.m. at SAW Gallery's CLUB SAW (located at 67 Nicholas, = phone: 236 6181). LAI's new novel SALT FISH GIRL published in the fall of 2003 is good = fiction with a double helix plot that wraps and warps itself in = intriguing and stimulating ways around the beast of biotechnology. Larissa Lai gives a very engaging reading so I hope you can make it. = This is a reading not to be missed. Both novels are published in paperback SALT FISH GIRL (Thomas Allen Publishers 0-88762-111-2) WHEN FOX IS A THOUSAND (Original publisher Press Gang 0-874-041-0) PLEASE CIRCULATE ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C31C78.F29F8660 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Marwan=20 Hassan
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: Reading at Club SAW May 25 2 pm

LARISSA LAI, author of the award winning = novel,  WHEN FOX=20 IS A THOUSAND and the new novel, SALT FISH GIRL, will be reading in = Ottawa=20 on Sunday May 25th at 2:00 p.m. at SAW Gallery's CLUB SAW (located at 67 = Nicholas, phone: 236 6181).
 
LAI's new novel SALT FISH GIRL published in the = fall of=20 2003 is good fiction with a double helix plot that wraps and = warps=20 itself in  intriguing and stimulating ways around the = beast of=20 biotechnology.
 
Larissa Lai gives a very engaging reading so = I hope=20 you can make it.  This is a reading not to be missed.
 
Both novels are published in = paperback
 
SALT FISH GIRL (Thomas Allen Publishers=20 0-88762-111-2)
 
WHEN FOX IS A THOUSAND (Original publisher = Press Gang=20 0-874-041-0)
 
 
 
PLEASE CIRCULATE
------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C31C78.F29F8660-- From b.hassan at sympatico.ca Sat May 17 13:38:53 2003 From: b.hassan at sympatico.ca (Baalqis Hassan) Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 13:38:53 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Auditions Message-ID: <003f01c31c9b$303cb7a0$5075d1d8@y3t6z7> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C31C79.A861AD20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, I just got a couple of e-mails saying that some judges didn't make it to = the auditions because they couldn't find the school. I was just = wondering if there were some decisions made about who will perform at = the concert and if we are going to have the follow up auditions. Also, = if there were some decisions made about who is going to play, could = someone send out a list of the bands/performers? Thanks -Baalqis ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C31C79.A861AD20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey,
 
I just got a couple of e-mails saying = that some=20 judges didn't make it to the auditions because they couldn't find the = school. I=20 was just wondering if there were some decisions made about who will = perform at=20 the concert and if we are going to have the follow up auditions. Also, = if there=20 were some decisions made about who is going to play, could someone send = out a=20 list of the bands/performers?
 
Thanks
-Baalqis
------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C31C79.A861AD20-- From deforgeo_thinking at hotmail.com Sat May 17 17:47:48 2003 From: deforgeo_thinking at hotmail.com (Michael DeForge) Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 17:47:48 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] matt good CD Message-ID: Ditto on the Clash mention. "Rock the Casbah" and "The Call Up" are some great anti-war stuff. And, I know he isn't everybody's thing, but Elvis Costello has a number of songs that are very pro-peace, like "Shipbuilding," "What's So Funny About Peace Love and Understanding?" and "Oliver's Army." Roger Water's "Courage of Being Out of Range" is especially relevant to this war, too. >From: "Baalqis Hassan" >To: >Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] matt good CD >Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 13:31:13 -0400 > >The Sleater Kinney song is really really good. Also people might also want >to check out some stuff by the Clash. Obviously it won't have anything to >do >with the war on Iraq but they're amazing, one of my favourite bands. > >-Baalqis >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Michael DeForge" >To: >Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 7:07 PM >Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] matt good CD > > > > You might also want to check out http://www.frontalot.com > > > > MC Frontalot is usually a jokey "nerdcore" artist, but the latest track >is >a > > pretty decent anti-war song. > > > > It's all free, so it's worth a listen. I'll also second the Norah Jones > > reccomendation. > > > > Some anti-war rock artists you might also be interested in are Cat Power >and > > Sleater-Kinney (the latter has an amazing track called Combat Rock, an > > obvious nod to the Clash album of the same name, directly addressing the >war > > in Iraq.) > > > > And of course, Radiohead's new album is hitting North America later in >June, > > called "Hail to the Theif" (it isn't hard to guess what that's about.) > > > > > > >From: Gwen > > >To: oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca > > >Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] matt good CD > > >Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 23:52:30 -0400 > > > > > >Hey, > > > > > >Rap and hip hop are great sources of political thought. I'm not going >to > > >go into playlists, because there's far too much excellent matieral out > > >there, so I'll just post a list of artists... If you relaly want >specific > > >song reccomendations I can do that, but for the most part you can just > > >downlaod whatever you find and it's good. Asterisks beside the VERY >best > > >artists: > > > > > >Arrested Development > > >Atmosphere > > >Black Star (Black Star is Talib Kweli & Mos Def) > > >Common (Have some excellent stuff and some not so great stuff) > > >Dangelo > > >*Dead Prez (Very intelligent) > > >Dialated Peoples > > >Dream Warriors > > >*Gil Scott-Heron (Influence heavily by The Last Poets, GSH invented > > > hip-hop in the 70s) > > >Guru > > >KRS-One > > >Mos Def > > >Non Phixon > > >Paris > > >Poor Righteous Teachers > > >Public Enemy (Classic!) > > >Roots > > >Sarah Jones > > >*Spearhead (Awesome, joyful, revolutionary, happy music) > > >Taalam Acey (More of a spokenword artist, really) > > >Talib Kweli > > >*The Coup (Very very very good, but I hear they're Maoists) > > >*The Disposible Heroes of Hiphoprisy (share lead singer Michale Franti > > > (and I think other members) with Spearhead; older and harder to > > > find but incredibly worth it) > > >*The Last Poets (These guys invented rap in the 60s/70s) > > >X-Clan > > >Zion-I > > > > > >Gwen > > > > > >Erica Woolley wrote: > > >>I wanted to recommend to all of you a great CD. I don't buy CD's >anymore > > >>but I spent the best $14.99 I have in a long time and bought Canadian >band > > >>"Matthew Good Band - Avalanche". I went through the CD and I must say > > >>this is the best CD probably since I last heard Pink Floyd. Pink Floyd > > >>cannot be measured (I'm a die hard fan) but this one is definitely a > > >>modern version that is along similar lines. Very intense and not just >for > > >>the younger generation. > > >> You may have seen his videos or songs - Weapon & A World Called > > >>Catastrophe (you can view the video at: http://www.matthewgood.net/) > > >> He's a hometown hero in my native Vancouver, BC and saw him play at >the > > >>Commodore last year (AMAZING). When given the chance to sell out and > > >>change his image to sell mega records in the US he refused (other > > >>Vancouver band Nickelback on the other hand did). He's truly an artist >and > > >>this CD is by far the best he's done to date. I would say in the > > >>mainstream MTV world he's probably the only artist I've seen go all >the > > >>way in expressing what the f&%k is going on in the world at this point >in > > >>time. > > >> For some of you that want a playlist cause you want to download some > > >>MP3's below is the playlist. A definate worthwhile purchase and even >the > > >>lyrics are worth checking out alone > > >>(http://www.lyred.com/lyrics/Matthew+Good+Band/Avalanche/). > > >> Pledge of Allegiance* > > >>Lullaby for the New World Order* > > >>Weapon* > > >>In A World Called Catastrophe * > > >>Avalanche* > > >>21st Century Living *** - *my favourite on the CD* > > >>While We Were Hunting Rabbits > > >>Bright End of Nowhere* > > >>Near Fantastica > > >>Song For the Girl > > >>Double Life > > >>A Long Way Down > > >>House of Smoke & Mirrors * > > >>* My Favourites > > >> Cheers > > >> Erica > > > > > >-- > > > > > > > > >(A) > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Oosaw-eoocg mailing list > > >Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca > > >http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. 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Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From digitalerica at rogers.com Sat May 17 18:08:08 2003 From: digitalerica at rogers.com (Erica Woolley) Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 18:08:08 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] matt good CD References: Message-ID: <015501c31cc0$cc4cf540$8213c018@slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> I love Roger Water's! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael DeForge" To: Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] matt good CD > Ditto on the Clash mention. "Rock the Casbah" and "The Call Up" are some > great anti-war stuff. > > And, I know he isn't everybody's thing, but Elvis Costello has a number of > songs that are very pro-peace, like "Shipbuilding," "What's So Funny About > Peace Love and Understanding?" and "Oliver's Army." > > Roger Water's "Courage of Being Out of Range" is especially relevant to this > war, too. > > > > > > >From: "Baalqis Hassan" > >To: > >Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] matt good CD > >Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 13:31:13 -0400 > > > >The Sleater Kinney song is really really good. Also people might also want > >to check out some stuff by the Clash. Obviously it won't have anything to > >do > >with the war on Iraq but they're amazing, one of my favourite bands. > > > >-Baalqis > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Michael DeForge" > >To: > >Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 7:07 PM > >Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] matt good CD > > > > > > > You might also want to check out http://www.frontalot.com > > > > > > MC Frontalot is usually a jokey "nerdcore" artist, but the latest track > >is > >a > > > pretty decent anti-war song. > > > > > > It's all free, so it's worth a listen. I'll also second the Norah Jones > > > reccomendation. > > > > > > Some anti-war rock artists you might also be interested in are Cat Power > >and > > > Sleater-Kinney (the latter has an amazing track called Combat Rock, an > > > obvious nod to the Clash album of the same name, directly addressing the > >war > > > in Iraq.) > > > > > > And of course, Radiohead's new album is hitting North America later in > >June, > > > called "Hail to the Theif" (it isn't hard to guess what that's about.) > > > > > > > > > >From: Gwen > > > >To: oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca > > > >Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] matt good CD > > > >Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 23:52:30 -0400 > > > > > > > >Hey, > > > > > > > >Rap and hip hop are great sources of political thought. I'm not going > >to > > > >go into playlists, because there's far too much excellent matieral out > > > >there, so I'll just post a list of artists... If you relaly want > >specific > > > >song reccomendations I can do that, but for the most part you can just > > > >downlaod whatever you find and it's good. Asterisks beside the VERY > >best > > > >artists: > > > > > > > >Arrested Development > > > >Atmosphere > > > >Black Star (Black Star is Talib Kweli & Mos Def) > > > >Common (Have some excellent stuff and some not so great stuff) > > > >Dangelo > > > >*Dead Prez (Very intelligent) > > > >Dialated Peoples > > > >Dream Warriors > > > >*Gil Scott-Heron (Influence heavily by The Last Poets, GSH invented > > > > hip-hop in the 70s) > > > >Guru > > > >KRS-One > > > >Mos Def > > > >Non Phixon > > > >Paris > > > >Poor Righteous Teachers > > > >Public Enemy (Classic!) > > > >Roots > > > >Sarah Jones > > > >*Spearhead (Awesome, joyful, revolutionary, happy music) > > > >Taalam Acey (More of a spokenword artist, really) > > > >Talib Kweli > > > >*The Coup (Very very very good, but I hear they're Maoists) > > > >*The Disposible Heroes of Hiphoprisy (share lead singer Michale Franti > > > > (and I think other members) with Spearhead; older and harder to > > > > find but incredibly worth it) > > > >*The Last Poets (These guys invented rap in the 60s/70s) > > > >X-Clan > > > >Zion-I > > > > > > > >Gwen > > > > > > > >Erica Woolley wrote: > > > >>I wanted to recommend to all of you a great CD. I don't buy CD's > >anymore > > > >>but I spent the best $14.99 I have in a long time and bought Canadian > >band > > > >>"Matthew Good Band - Avalanche". I went through the CD and I must say > > > >>this is the best CD probably since I last heard Pink Floyd. Pink Floyd > > > >>cannot be measured (I'm a die hard fan) but this one is definitely a > > > >>modern version that is along similar lines. Very intense and not just > >for > > > >>the younger generation. > > > >> You may have seen his videos or songs - Weapon & A World Called > > > >>Catastrophe (you can view the video at: http://www.matthewgood.net/) > > > >> He's a hometown hero in my native Vancouver, BC and saw him play at > >the > > > >>Commodore last year (AMAZING). When given the chance to sell out and > > > >>change his image to sell mega records in the US he refused (other > > > >>Vancouver band Nickelback on the other hand did). He's truly an artist > >and > > > >>this CD is by far the best he's done to date. I would say in the > > > >>mainstream MTV world he's probably the only artist I've seen go all > >the > > > >>way in expressing what the f&%k is going on in the world at this point > >in > > > >>time. > > > >> For some of you that want a playlist cause you want to download some > > > >>MP3's below is the playlist. A definate worthwhile purchase and even > >the > > > >>lyrics are worth checking out alone > > > >>(http://www.lyred.com/lyrics/Matthew+Good+Band/Avalanche/). > > > >> Pledge of Allegiance* > > > >>Lullaby for the New World Order* > > > >>Weapon* > > > >>In A World Called Catastrophe * > > > >>Avalanche* > > > >>21st Century Living *** - *my favourite on the CD* > > > >>While We Were Hunting Rabbits > > > >>Bright End of Nowhere* > > > >>Near Fantastica > > > >>Song For the Girl > > > >>Double Life > > > >>A Long Way Down > > > >>House of Smoke & Mirrors * > > > >>* My Favourites > > > >> Cheers > > > >> Erica > > > > > > > >-- > > > > > > > > > > > >(A) > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Oosaw-eoocg mailing list > > > >Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca > > > >http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Oosaw-eoocg mailing list > > > Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca > > > http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Oosaw-eoocg mailing list > >Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca > >http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > _______________________________________________ > Oosaw-eoocg mailing list > Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca > http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg From alexrobinson at rogers.com Mon May 19 14:12:39 2003 From: alexrobinson at rogers.com (Alex Robinson) Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 14:12:39 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] concert Message-ID: <000801c31e32$3daf1bb0$6401a8c0@Alex> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C31E10.B45ED650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, I unfortunately probably won't be able to make it to the meeting = tomorrow. I just wanted to say that I have a few bands that weren't able = to make it to the auditions that still would like to play at the = concert. I could bring in their demos so that you can all hear them and = make a decision. I also have gotten in touch with a professional local = band called DIZZ-organised that were to busy to audition but would = gladly play at the concert.=20 -Alex ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C31E10.B45ED650 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey,
 
    I unfortunately = probably won't=20 be able to make it to the meeting tomorrow. I just wanted to say that I = have a=20 few bands that weren't able to make it to the auditions that still would = like to=20 play at the concert. I could bring in their demos so that you can all = hear them=20 and make a decision. I also have gotten in touch with a professional = local band=20 called DIZZ-organised that were to busy to audition but would gladly = play at the=20 concert.
 
-Alex
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C31E10.B45ED650-- From deforgeo_thinking at hotmail.com Mon May 19 14:17:58 2003 From: deforgeo_thinking at hotmail.com (Michael DeForge) Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 14:17:58 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] concert Message-ID: I also won't be able to make it to tomorrow's meeting. If any or all of the concert details could be finalised, could someone e-mail them off to the listserve? I remember Kevin asked if the final posters could be finished up by tomorrow, but that doesn't seem likely, as 1), I haven't recieved any feedback from the drafts I sent off from either the poster committee or anyone else, and 2), I hardly have any details on time, date, venue, etc. Weepity weep on me, I guess. -DeForge >From: "Alex Robinson" >To: "OOSAW" >Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] concert >Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 14:12:39 -0400 > >Hey, > > I unfortunately probably won't be able to make it to the meeting >tomorrow. I just wanted to say that I have a few bands that weren't able to >make it to the auditions that still would like to play at the concert. I >could bring in their demos so that you can all hear them and make a >decision. I also have gotten in touch with a professional local band called >DIZZ-organised that were to busy to audition but would gladly play at the >concert. > >-Alex _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From alexrobinson at rogers.com Mon May 19 15:23:37 2003 From: alexrobinson at rogers.com (Alex Robinson) Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 15:23:37 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] The perfect enemy: Terrorists who can't be caught because they don't really exist or because they're CIA assets Message-ID: <000d01c31e3c$295f7a60$6401a8c0@Alex> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C31E1A.A2089400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.lewisnews.com/article.asp?ID=3D57344 The perfect enemy: Terrorists who can't be caught because they = don't really exist or because they're CIA assets Posted on: 5/12/2003 11:50:00 AM - Columnist=20 =20 =20 War provides the perfect cover for those waging it to commit = crimes against not only enemies but also friends. Amid the patriotic = flag waving and somber ceremony, the populace is cowed into distraction = and for the most part will not see the chicanery and manipulation that = not only created the conditions FOR the war, but also will not perceive = that the purpose OF it is not to defeat the enemy, but to financially = castrate and sociologically neutralize those who are actually helping to = wage the war. Such is the process by which those in power consolidate their = advantage among their so-called friends. The Christian Crusades of millenia past provide an apt example of = this deceptive process. With no enemies nearby and a surfeit of armed = and affluent noblemen itching for aggressive acts, kings and ministers = of past empires dreamed up external threats by which to distract their = powerful friends from contemplating revolution. Jerusalem and the = dark-skinned Muslim realms have always been a popular target. The = subsequent conflicts not only reaped new riches for the warmaking = kingdoms, but also depleted the ranks and resources of those sent to = fight, thereby lessening the potential political threat to the very = people who dreamed up the wars in the first place. Two birds with one = stone. Those innocents killed in such cynical gambits now bear the = unfortunate title of collateral damage, regrettable but necessary = sacrifices to the selfishness of those in positions of power who seek to = maintain it. So this world full of greedy humans continues to turn. During war, citizens of the warmaking state may not question the = motives of their leaders, lest they be accused of treason and summarily = executed. Therefore, any state seeking permanent obeisance and minimal = criticism from its citizenry will logically aspire toward a regimen of = permanent war. It is supremely ironic that a majority of these citizens = will wholeheartedly support such efforts, without realizing that it is = the destruction of their own freedom that they are cheering. However, real enemies are usually not so accommodating as to wish = to engage in battle indefinitely. They are either are defeated and = disappear as a viable social force, or, they kick butt and thereby ruin = the plans of the manipulative attacker forever. A shrewd superpower kingdom will cleverly avoid picking a fair = fight, thereby eliminating, as nearly as possible, the undesirable = surprise of an unexpected defeat. It will also defer toward states of = relatively equal strength, establish diplomatic relations, and wait for = an opportunity to screw them surreptitiously and without penalty. Since the situation we face now is that one superpower outstrips = in military might the next ten strongest nations, the need for it to be = diplomatic is at an all-time low. It simply can do what it wants when it = wants. And yet, humans being what they are - wanting to be free, happy, = honest and well-fed - even a superpower in this unchallenged position = must construct fantasy scenarios to convince its people - no matter how = amateurishly - that they are doing the right thing by supporting endless = wars. Today we hear all sorts of childish whimpering about the terrorist = threat, even though a cursory examination of recent history would reveal = that most of these threats have been deliberately created by the nation = doing most of the complaining about these very threats. And this epiphany can lead you to a very startling observation = about the nature of the world as human civilization enters the 21st = century following the appearance of the Divine Messiah most of this = civilization pretends to worship. It seemed for a time - two centuries, actually - that the United = States of America was a good country, champion of justice, advocate of = freedom, that sort of stuff. What was lost in the education of its own = citizens, however, was the frequency with which it went to war, against = interlopers who were invariably depicted as evil people on the wrong = side of democratic progress. A cursory perusal of this murderous American resum=E9 will reveal = that it has always been the aggressor in all these big fights, even = though the official histories bend the facts to show the U.S. was = fighting for freedom against one tyrant or another. But as time passed and the world got smaller, it became obvious = that the U.S. was running out of countries that it could call evil, = declare war against, and then pulverize. Besides, once a country had been seriously obliterated, it simply = took too long to rebuild it into a serious enemy again. Clearly, if the same cartel that has essentially been running this = country for all of its 227 years was to stay in power, it had to devise = a new formula for finding constant enemies to fight, thereby enriching = its own coffers and keeping its own citizenry from noticing too much = about the way it actually conducts its business. So it devised a new system of actually creating its own enemies. = It sponsored young malcontents to fight battles the served the purposes = of the masters, provided them with weapons and support techniques, used = them for awhile, and then seemingly cut them loose to develop on their = own. Of course, all the while the progress of these young rebels was = monitored by American intelligence agencies, for the purpose of = determining exactly when they could be considered mature enough to = reclassify them from a nominal ally fighting for U.S. interests into a = nightmare threat fighting against U.S. interests. The key element in making this process work was fabricating staged = terror events that were actually perpetrated against our own citizens = but then cleverly blamed on these various foreign provocateurs whom the = U.S. had carefully nurtured and brought to maturity. The U.S. learned this trick from Israel, which had successfully = used the technique throughout Europe (principally in Germany) and = specifically in Iraq in the 1940s, to convince its own people of the = dangers posed by "enemies" it had previously supported, for the purpose = of creating a hysteria to compel more Jews to move to Israel. Of course, now we see how Israel has used this staged terror = formula to elicit world support for its illegal occupation of Palestine. = And more vividly, we see how the staged terror events in New York City = have driven a large part of Western Civilization into a new, = crusade-like rage against the peoples of Islamic countries. Serious = historians will note this has all been done before, but the general = population contains few serious historians, so most people don't notice = that the current War on Terror is simply a replay of the European = royals' propaganda used to attack Middle Eastern peoples some eight = hundred years ago, and ever since. And lest you think all this is merely a flight of literary fancy, = I bid you consider the careers of Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, = both of whom were catapulted into the public eye as fledgling CIA = operatives, bin Laden as an Arab counterculture hero (and cheered on by = his family) who rode to the rescue (with large amounts of cash) of the = Afghani mujahadeen, accompanied by plenty of assistance from Ronald = Reagan's CIA wheelerdealers; and Saddam as one of the triggermen in a = 1968 coup in Iraq that was of course fueled by support from the, = you-guessed-it, CIA. I probably need not mention that either one of = these strategic CIA assets has ever been apprehended. So for these folks to develop into threats against the world (and = this is not to mention Panama's Manuel Noriega, who also followed the = same progressive curriculum as a pawn in the South American drug game = and good friend of the Bush family, only to later become the target of a = massive American invasion), you begin to see the pattern. The U.S. has really replaced client state enemies it first builds = up with cash bribes and then converts into enemies with client = personality enemies, whom it nurtures with military support, provokes = with a no-win decision (whatever did happen to April Glaspie?), and then = invades in a profitable fit of righteous retribution. Are you getting the picture? It's interesting reading some of the older stories about al-Qaeda, = the so-called terror group founded by bin Laden in Afghanistan (and = nurtured by Pakistani intelligence, which was covertly funded by the = American CIA), and seeing how al-Qaeda fought side by side with American = mercenaries in Bosnia, Kosovo, Macedonia and even Chechnya, but when = they were conveniently needed as an excuse for going to war somewhere = else (Afghanistan and Iraq), they were quickly converted into an enemy. Clearly, al-Qaeda is connected to the CIA, but for purposes of = stealing Iraq's oil reserves, the U.S. connected them to Iraq, and got a = major assist from what used to be called the American free press, but = now is called something else, something far worse. I guess you could call al-Qaeda a multi-purpose CIA asset, good = for either good or bad activities. Al-Qaeda are claimed to the boogeymen who perpetrated 9/11 and = were supposedly connected to Saddam. And yet when you go to find out about them, they disappear in a = cloud of undercover spy dust, with no leads suddenly unavailable as to = where they might have disappeared. How utterly convenient. The real = reason is because their controllers live at the Pentagon and other = prestigious Washington addresses, not to mention a few palaces in Saudi = Arabia that have ties to many American corporations. Occasionally, the powers that be throw us a bone, like Moussaoui, = or Richard Reid, just to try to prove there are actual terrorists out = there. But how many more so-called terrorists have been allowed to slip = away, under cover of CIA assistance? And, as in Yemen, how many more are = prevented from being sought, lest they reveal their ties to the = government in Washington? Instead of having countries to blame for our ills, we now have = mystical individuals - terrorists - who absolutely can't be found, = except for those like Atta and the supposed hijackers who actually = received training at U.S. military installations. Sound like a familiar = technique? For endless war, you must have an enemy who cannot be caught, who = is completely vaporous, therefore necessitating nonstop aggressive = emergency measures, variously colored alerts and tough talk for those = who are unable to understand words. The perfect enemy for a state that seeks endless war and seeks = forever to pull the wool over the eyes of its own citizens for purposes = of endless robbery and implementing slavery where freedom previously = existed would be an enemy who cannot, under any circumstances, ever be = caught. Osama and Saddam doubtless know this. In the literal sense, this perfect enemy does not exist, which = makes him perfect for a society determined to make war, because he will = never be caught, and the war can continue forever. The harder an enemy is to find and defeat, the better it is for = those who seek to destroy that enemy. The CIA's creation of al-Qaeda is = the perfect recipe for those billionaires whose objective is endless = conflict from which to make more money. This is the new era in which we = find ourselves. It is the ultimate tilting at windmills, by which the elite who = have always run America can perpetrate their vicious schemes of slavery, = the gullible can continue to have their empty causes to cheer, and = legitimate, God-fearing citizens can cower in fear while the very = churches they support participate in the coverup that supports the = tyrants who oppress them. This is the way the world is, and has always been. Only now it's worse, because the enemy is now a fabricated = fiction, available for convenient blame in any and all disasters, no = matter who actually perpetrated them. And thanks to media shills who don't ask real questions, = well-bribed legislators devoid of conscience, law enforcers who help = their patrons cover up crimes, and judges who have no interest in real = justice, there is no end in sight for this war on freedom. John Kaminski lives on the coast of Florida and is the author of = "America's Autopsy Report," soon to be published by Dandelion Books. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C31E1A.A2089400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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War provides the perfect cover for those waging it to commit = crimes=20 against not only enemies but also friends. Amid the patriotic flag = waving=20 and somber ceremony, the populace is cowed into distraction and = for the=20 most part will not see the chicanery and manipulation that not = only=20 created the conditions FOR the war, but also will not perceive = that the=20 purpose OF it is not to defeat the enemy, but to financially = castrate and=20 sociologically neutralize those who are actually helping to wage = the=20 war.

Such is the process by which those in power consolidate their = advantage=20 among their so-called friends.

The Christian Crusades of millenia past provide an apt example = of this=20 deceptive process. With no enemies nearby and a surfeit of armed = and=20 affluent noblemen itching for aggressive acts, kings and ministers = of past=20 empires dreamed up external threats by which to distract their = powerful=20 friends from contemplating revolution. Jerusalem and the = dark-skinned=20 Muslim realms have always been a popular target. The subsequent = conflicts=20 not only reaped new riches for the warmaking kingdoms, but also = depleted=20 the ranks and resources of those sent to fight, thereby lessening = the=20 potential political threat to the very people who dreamed up the = wars in=20 the first place. Two birds with one stone.

Those innocents killed in such cynical gambits now bear the = unfortunate=20 title of collateral damage, regrettable but necessary sacrifices = to the=20 selfishness of those in positions of power who seek to maintain = it. So=20 this world full of greedy humans continues to turn.

During war, citizens of the warmaking state may not question = the=20 motives of their leaders, lest they be accused of treason and = summarily=20 executed. Therefore, any state seeking permanent obeisance and = minimal=20 criticism from its citizenry will logically aspire toward a = regimen of=20 permanent war. It is supremely ironic that a majority of these = citizens=20 will wholeheartedly support such efforts, without realizing that = it is the=20 destruction of their own freedom that they are cheering.

However, real enemies are usually not so accommodating as to = wish to=20 engage in battle indefinitely. They are either are defeated and = disappear=20 as a viable social force, or, they kick butt and thereby ruin the = plans of=20 the manipulative attacker forever.

A shrewd superpower kingdom will cleverly avoid picking a fair = fight,=20 thereby eliminating, as nearly as possible, the undesirable = surprise of an=20 unexpected defeat. It will also defer toward states of relatively = equal=20 strength, establish diplomatic relations, and wait for an = opportunity to=20 screw them surreptitiously and without penalty.

Since the situation we face now is that one superpower = outstrips in=20 military might the next ten strongest nations, the need for it to = be=20 diplomatic is at an all-time low. It simply can do what it wants = when it=20 wants.

And yet, humans being what they are =97 wanting to be free, = happy, honest=20 and well-fed =97 even a superpower in this unchallenged position = must=20 construct fantasy scenarios to convince its people =97 no matter = how=20 amateurishly =97 that they are doing the right thing by supporting = endless=20 wars.

Today we hear all sorts of childish whimpering about the = terrorist=20 threat, even though a cursory examination of recent history would = reveal=20 that most of these threats have been deliberately created by the = nation=20 doing most of the complaining about these very threats.

And this epiphany can lead you to a very startling observation = about=20 the nature of the world as human civilization enters the 21st = century=20 following the appearance of the Divine Messiah most of this = civilization=20 pretends to worship.

It seemed for a time =97 two centuries, actually =97 that the = United States=20 of America was a good country, champion of justice, advocate of = freedom,=20 that sort of stuff. What was lost in the education of its own = citizens,=20 however, was the frequency with which it went to war, against = interlopers=20 who were invariably depicted as evil people on the wrong side of=20 democratic progress.

A cursory perusal of this murderous American resum=E9 will = reveal that it=20 has always been the aggressor in all these big fights, even though = the=20 official histories bend the facts to show the U.S. was fighting = for=20 freedom against one tyrant or another.

But as time passed and the world got smaller, it became obvious = that=20 the U.S. was running out of countries that it could call evil, = declare war=20 against, and then pulverize.

Besides, once a country had been seriously obliterated, it = simply took=20 too long to rebuild it into a serious enemy again.

Clearly, if the same cartel that has essentially been running = this=20 country for all of its 227 years was to stay in power, it had to = devise a=20 new formula for finding constant enemies to fight, thereby = enriching its=20 own coffers and keeping its own citizenry from noticing too much = about the=20 way it actually conducts its business.

So it devised a new system of actually creating its own = enemies. It=20 sponsored young malcontents to fight battles the served the = purposes of=20 the masters, provided them with weapons and support techniques, = used them=20 for awhile, and then seemingly cut them loose to develop on their = own. Of=20 course, all the while the progress of these young rebels was = monitored by=20 American intelligence agencies, for the purpose of determining = exactly=20 when they could be considered mature enough to reclassify them = from a=20 nominal ally fighting for U.S. interests into a nightmare threat = fighting=20 against U.S. interests.

The key element in making this process work was fabricating = staged=20 terror events that were actually perpetrated against our own = citizens but=20 then cleverly blamed on these various foreign provocateurs whom = the U.S.=20 had carefully nurtured and brought to maturity.

The U.S. learned this trick from Israel, which had successfully = used=20 the technique throughout Europe (principally in Germany) and = specifically=20 in Iraq in the 1940s, to convince its own people of the dangers = posed by=20 "enemies" it had previously supported, for the purpose of creating = a=20 hysteria to compel more Jews to move to Israel.

Of course, now we see how Israel has used this staged terror = formula to=20 elicit world support for its illegal occupation of Palestine. And = more=20 vividly, we see how the staged terror events in New York City have = driven=20 a large part of Western Civilization into a new, crusade-like rage = against=20 the peoples of Islamic countries. Serious historians will note = this has=20 all been done before, but the general population contains few = serious=20 historians, so most people don't notice that the current War on = Terror is=20 simply a replay of the European royals' propaganda used to attack = Middle=20 Eastern peoples some eight hundred years ago, and ever since.

And lest you think all this is merely a flight of literary = fancy, I bid=20 you consider the careers of Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, = both of=20 whom were catapulted into the public eye as fledgling CIA = operatives, bin=20 Laden as an Arab counterculture hero (and cheered on by his = family) who=20 rode to the rescue (with large amounts of cash) of the Afghani = mujahadeen,=20 accompanied by plenty of assistance from Ronald Reagan's CIA=20 wheelerdealers; and Saddam as one of the triggermen in a 1968 coup = in Iraq=20 that was of course fueled by support from the, you-guessed-it, = CIA. I=20 probably need not mention that either one of these strategic CIA = assets=20 has ever been apprehended.

So for these folks to develop into threats against the world = (and this=20 is not to mention Panama's Manuel Noriega, who also followed the = same=20 progressive curriculum as a pawn in the South American drug game = and good=20 friend of the Bush family, only to later become the target of a = massive=20 American invasion), you begin to see the pattern.

The U.S. has really replaced client state enemies it first = builds up=20 with cash bribes and then converts into enemies with client = personality=20 enemies, whom it nurtures with military support, provokes with a = no-win=20 decision (whatever did happen to April Glaspie?), and then invades = in a=20 profitable fit of righteous retribution.

Are you getting the picture?

It's interesting reading some of the older stories about = al-Qaeda, the=20 so-called terror group founded by bin Laden in Afghanistan (and = nurtured=20 by Pakistani intelligence, which was covertly funded by the = American CIA),=20 and seeing how al-Qaeda fought side by side with American = mercenaries in=20 Bosnia, Kosovo, Macedonia and even Chechnya, but when they were=20 conveniently needed as an excuse for going to war somewhere else=20 (Afghanistan and Iraq), they were quickly converted into an = enemy.

Clearly, al-Qaeda is connected to the CIA, but for purposes of = stealing=20 Iraq's oil reserves, the U.S. connected them to Iraq, and got a = major=20 assist from what used to be called the American free press, but = now is=20 called something else, something far worse.

I guess you could call al-Qaeda a multi-purpose CIA asset, good = for=20 either good or bad activities.

Al-Qaeda are claimed to the boogeymen who perpetrated 9/11 and = were=20 supposedly connected to Saddam.

And yet when you go to find out about them, they disappear in a = cloud=20 of undercover spy dust, with no leads suddenly unavailable as to = where=20 they might have disappeared. How utterly convenient. The real = reason is=20 because their controllers live at the Pentagon and other = prestigious=20 Washington addresses, not to mention a few palaces in Saudi Arabia = that=20 have ties to many American corporations.

Occasionally, the powers that be throw us a bone, like = Moussaoui, or=20 Richard Reid, just to try to prove there are actual terrorists out = there.=20 But how many more so-called terrorists have been allowed to slip = away,=20 under cover of CIA assistance? And, as in Yemen, how many more are = prevented from being sought, lest they reveal their ties to the = government=20 in Washington?

Instead of having countries to blame for our ills, we now have = mystical=20 individuals =97 terrorists =97 who absolutely can't be found, = except for those=20 like Atta and the supposed hijackers who actually received = training at=20 U.S. military installations. Sound like a familiar technique?

For endless war, you must have an enemy who cannot be caught, = who is=20 completely vaporous, therefore necessitating nonstop aggressive = emergency=20 measures, variously colored alerts and tough talk for those who = are unable=20 to understand words.

The perfect enemy for a state that seeks endless war and seeks = forever=20 to pull the wool over the eyes of its own citizens for purposes of = endless=20 robbery and implementing slavery where freedom previously existed = would be=20 an enemy who cannot, under any circumstances, ever be caught. = Osama and=20 Saddam doubtless know this.

In the literal sense, this perfect enemy does not exist, which = makes=20 him perfect for a society determined to make war, because he will = never be=20 caught, and the war can continue forever.

The harder an enemy is to find and defeat, the better it is for = those=20 who seek to destroy that enemy. The CIA's creation of al-Qaeda is = the=20 perfect recipe for those billionaires whose objective is endless = conflict=20 from which to make more money. This is the new era in which we = find=20 ourselves.

It is the ultimate tilting at windmills, by which the elite who = have=20 always run America can perpetrate their vicious schemes of = slavery, the=20 gullible can continue to have their empty causes to cheer, and = legitimate,=20 God-fearing citizens can cower in fear while the very churches = they=20 support participate in the coverup that supports the tyrants who = oppress=20 them.

This is the way the world is, and has always been.

Only now it's worse, because the enemy is now a fabricated = fiction,=20 available for convenient blame in any and all disasters, no matter = who=20 actually perpetrated them.

And thanks to media shills who don't ask real questions, = well-bribed=20 legislators devoid of conscience, law enforcers who help their = patrons=20 cover up crimes, and judges who have no interest in real justice, = there is=20 no end in sight for this war on freedom.

 

John Kaminski lives on the coast of Florida and is the author = of=20 "America's Autopsy Report," soon to be published by Dandelion = Books.

------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C31E1A.A2089400-- From alexrobinson at rogers.com Mon May 19 19:33:55 2003 From: alexrobinson at rogers.com (Alex Robinson) Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 19:33:55 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] concert posters- drafts References: Message-ID: <000a01c31e5f$1f455630$6401a8c0@Alex> I like both of these posters and think that we could use both. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael DeForge" To: Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 7:48 PM Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] concert posters- drafts > two drafts of posters advertising the concert, just to get feedback. i'll do > some more tomorrow. > > if anyone on the poster commitee, or anyone else, has any designs, comments, > criticisms or ideas, feel free to send them off. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > _______________________________________________ > Oosaw-eoocg mailing list > Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca > http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg From gwen at nocog.org Tue May 20 00:14:57 2003 From: gwen at nocog.org (Gwen) Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 00:14:57 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] concert posters- drafts In-Reply-To: <000a01c31e5f$1f455630$6401a8c0@Alex> References: <000a01c31e5f$1f455630$6401a8c0@Alex> Message-ID: <3EC9ABC1.30609@nocog.org> Hey, Aparrently I missed the original post for this. Can someone please forward it (with attachemnts) to me? Gwen Alex Robinson wrote: > I like both of these posters and think that we could use both. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael DeForge" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 7:48 PM > Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] concert posters- drafts > > > >>two drafts of posters advertising the concert, just to get feedback. i'll > > do > >>some more tomorrow. >> >>if anyone on the poster commitee, or anyone else, has any designs, > > comments, > >>criticisms or ideas, feel free to send them off. >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >>http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Oosaw-eoocg mailing list >>Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca >>http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg > > > > _______________________________________________ > Oosaw-eoocg mailing list > Oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca > http://lists.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg > -- No masters, no slaves (A) http://gwen.nocog.org From squergio at hotmail.com Tue May 20 14:50:00 2003 From: squergio at hotmail.com (Aidan McGrath-Potter) Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 11:50:00 -0700 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] concert posters- drafts Message-ID:


ya i also missed the origional...and my brother needs it to so if i could get it (with the attachments tht would be great.




AIDAN


Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. From mspanesar2 at yahoo.com Thu May 29 17:00:00 2003 From: mspanesar2 at yahoo.com (Mick Panesar) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 14:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] RE: peace concert In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030529210000.78281.qmail@web12308.mail.yahoo.com> hi all, i'm also available for assistance with media. i could put one of you in touch with cbc radio, ckcu-fm, chuo-fm, etc. two tasks right away: 1. send the concert info to the ottawa xpress so that it appears in next thursday's edition...letters at ottawaxpress.ca 2. submit the concert info today or tomorrow to ckcu as a public service announcement for free publicity - deadline is tomorrow (friday). this gets read everyday on-air. see below for details... If you would like to add an event to the Entertainment Calendar or are a club owner and have an online schedule, please send your info (event, location, day, date & time or URL)to davealburger at sympatico.ca. Calendar entries for the upcoming week must be in by Friday at the latest. mick --- Kevin Skerrett wrote: > > Hey Shahnaz, > > I'm not positive, but it looks to me as though the > listserve is back up again. The > message I sent last night came through - you may > want to try it yourself. > > As for number/contacts for Caf? Alternatif, > absolutely, the manager > is "Jill", and the number there is 562-5800, x1112, > and her cell > number is 864-8522...You should know that, as I > mentioned in a previous email, they do want someone > to sign a contract, which does mean taking legal > responsibility for the place. I am guessing that > they would probably want an adult to give this > signature. I would prefer it if you could find > someone besides me to provide this signature, if > possible. Please let me know if that poses a > problem. I don't think I will be able to make it to > the show, and I think whoever does sign the contract > should probably be there. > > Also, if you call Jill, you probably will need to > clearly indicate that you are following a > conversation that she had with me about the booking > for June 6th. She will be able to tell you if there > is any possibility of a rehearsal date - you will > need to identify someone to pick up the keys, and be > the primary contact with the Cafe (presumably the > same adult as signs the contract). > > As for media contacts, etc., I would check with > Vallie Stearns. She is active with CPI and NOWAR, > and was probably our primary media worker. She > might be able to provide some advice. I am copying > her on this message. Her cellphone number is > 277-3129. You may also want to let > Bill Clennett know about the event - he is our > primary contact in Gatineau, and would be able > to pass on information to the anti-war movement > activists in that area. > > Having said that, to get the word out, I still think > that your best bet is to actually circulate > handbills in the schools themselves. I'm a little > confused about Michael's draft posters. I didn't > receive any attachments on the list, but Alex > Robinson responded saying he liked them. How did he > receive them? > > In any case, I intend to ask Sylvia, my colleague > and Kess's mother, whether she might be willing to > help with this project, because I am a bit stretched > thin with work right now. However, if you have > questions or need to reach me, my phone number at > work is 237-1590 x226, my cell is 864-1590, and my > home number is 728 7225. Another alternative is > Erica Wooley, who is the other CPI person who has > come to most of your meetings (she's copied on this > note as well). > > Hope that helps - sorry I was not able to make your > meeting on Tuesday night, I've been sick for the > past week. > > Kevin > > __________________________________________________ > Kevin Skerrett > (613) 237-1590 > CUPE Research > kskerrett at cupe.ca > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Shahnaz Mouhamou > [mailto:shahnaz_mouhamou at hotmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:15 PM > To: Kevin Skerrett > Subject: peace concert > > > hey...i just wanted to let u know that the list > serve is down...its not > workin for ne body, and what kind of sound system do > they have...what kind > to we need...i dont really know much about it. > would it be possible to get > a number so i can call them for last details....and > kess was supposed to > call u last night about a possible rehearsal date at > the cafe, ....is it > possible? also, to get the media involved how > exactly are we supposed to get > about that. > thx for ur help > shahnaz > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months > FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > ===== Please read Iraq Peace Team reports at www.nowar-paix.ca The conservation movement is a breeding ground of Communists and other subversives. We intend to clean them out, even if it means rounding up every bird watcher in the country. --John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-1972, as quoted in the New Jersey Sierra Club's Newsletter, Sierra Activist, Vol. 3, No. 9 (October 1997). __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com From digitalerica at rogers.com Thu May 29 17:56:25 2003 From: digitalerica at rogers.com (Erica Woolley) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 17:56:25 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Canadian Activist Website LAUNCH Message-ID: <018901c3262d$26aa88c0$8213c018@slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0186_01C3260B.9F4C9D80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable :CANADIANACTIVIST.COM LAUNCH: As some of you already know I put together a new cross Canada website = with some anti-war actions I have taken out of some NOWAR emails. Check = it out and be nice...I was the only one that put the whole thing = together. If there is any error messages or anything please let me know. = Pass it on, every person can and does make a difference! 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------=_NextPart_000_0186_01C3260B.9F4C9D80-- From deforgeo_thinking at hotmail.com Thu May 29 20:09:49 2003 From: deforgeo_thinking at hotmail.com (Michael DeForge) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 20:09:49 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Posters- One Last Time Message-ID: Looks like the list serve is, finally, up and running again. Anyway, all the posters (they could be final drafts, but I can still change anything you want on them) are available on the internet: http://images.deviantart.com/large/designs/dmisc/concert_poster_1.jpg http://images.deviantart.com/large/designs/dmisc/blah_poster_blah_concert.jpg http://images.deviantart.com/large/designs/dmisc/more_concerty_postery_final.jpg Here's hoping this works. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From gwen at nocog.org Thu May 29 21:20:51 2003 From: gwen at nocog.org (Gwen) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 21:20:51 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Posters- One Last Time In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3ED6B1F3.9020209@nocog.org> Wow Michael, you're a really great artist! I like the first one best. Gwen Michael DeForge wrote: > Looks like the list serve is, finally, up and running again. > > Anyway, all the posters (they could be final drafts, but I can still change > anything you want on them) are available on the internet: > > http://images.deviantart.com/large/designs/dmisc/concert_poster_1.jpg > http://images.deviantart.com/large/designs/dmisc/blah_poster_blah_concert.jpg > > http://images.deviantart.com/large/designs/dmisc/more_concerty_postery_final.jpg > > > Here's hoping this works. > > _________________________________________________________________ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > _______________________________________________ > Oosaw-eoocg mailing list > Oosaw-eoocg at members.cupe.ca > http://www.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg > -- No masters, no slaves (A) http://gwen.nocog.org From shahnaz_mouhamou at hotmail.com Thu May 29 23:36:58 2003 From: shahnaz_mouhamou at hotmail.com (Shahnaz Mouhamou) Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 23:36:58 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] peace concert-publicity Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_6704_4737_15d9 Content-Type: text/html

hey guys, i made this a couple days ago, i already posted them up at my school, micheal i just got urs today...they're rea good, i cant post the last 2 cuz its political but the first one shouldnt have ne problems.  all of u post at least 70-80 around ur school, focusing on the front lobby and caf since everybody hangs out there,

also, announce it everymorning starting friday, in the morning announcements....ull just have to ask ur vp or prin, go prepared with a write up, even the poster in ur hand shouldd be enough, just read it off

k good luck

shahnaz






luv
Shahnaz
"BOMBING FOR PEACE IS LIKE F****** FOR VIRGINITY"
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We intend to clean them out, even if it means rounding up every bird watcher in the country. --John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-1972, as quoted in the New Jersey Sierra Club's Newsletter, Sierra Activist, Vol. 3, No. 9 (October 1997). __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com From mspanesar2 at yahoo.com Fri May 30 16:48:27 2003 From: mspanesar2 at yahoo.com (Mick Panesar) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 13:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Remaining tasks for the concert - please read this! Message-ID: <20030530204828.53777.qmail@web12301.mail.yahoo.com> hi all, ok it's cruch time for the concert event and we need volunteers to take on remaining tasks... 1. Poster - Michael had put together an excellent poster(s) - it would be a good idea to add a contact phone number to the poster - does anyone wish to use their phone number???? We need volunteers to photocopy the poster and others do do some postering this weekend - bank street, elgin, somerset, sandy hill, etc. Any voluteers? 2. Sound Equipment (Mick) and soundperson (Shahnaz) 3. Contract signature at Alternatif - someone needs to call Jill and confirm the arrangement (562-5800,x1112, or 864-8522) and signature. 4. We need volunteers to help by getting there early and helping to set up and decorate the room. Volunteers? 5. Clean-up after the show. Volunteers? 6. Shifts at the door, selling tickets, welcoming people and keeping safeguarding the money. Volunteers? 7. Media spokespersons for interviews. Two people would be needed who are well-spoken. Volunteers? 8. Volunteers to help with publicity. That should be all of you...posters, leaflets, word-of-mouth. 9. 'Security' - how will this be addressed? Any suggestions? Any volunteers? 10. And of course we need people to show up. I don't have email access on weekends so anyone can feel free to call me at home...523-1077. thanks, mick --- Gwen wrote: > Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 21:20:51 -0400 > From: Gwen > To: oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca > Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] Posters- One Last Time > > Wow Michael, you're a really great artist! I like > the first one best. > > Gwen > > Michael DeForge wrote: > > Looks like the list serve is, finally, up and > running again. > > > > Anyway, all the posters (they could be final > drafts, but I can still change > > anything you want on them) are available on the > internet: > > > > > http://images.deviantart.com/large/designs/dmisc/concert_poster_1.jpg > > > http://images.deviantart.com/large/designs/dmisc/blah_poster_blah_concert.jpg > > > > > > http://images.deviantart.com/large/designs/dmisc/more_concerty_postery_final.jpg > > > > > > > Here's hoping this works. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months > FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Oosaw-eoocg mailing list > > Oosaw-eoocg at members.cupe.ca > > http://www.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg > > > > -- > No masters, no slaves > (A) > http://gwen.nocog.org > > _______________________________________________ > Oosaw-eoocg mailing list > Oosaw-eoocg at members.cupe.ca > http://www.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg ===== Please read Iraq Peace Team reports at www.nowar-paix.ca The conservation movement is a breeding ground of Communists and other subversives. We intend to clean them out, even if it means rounding up every bird watcher in the country. --John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-1972, as quoted in the New Jersey Sierra Club's Newsletter, Sierra Activist, Vol. 3, No. 9 (October 1997). __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com From shahnaz_mouhamou at hotmail.com Fri May 30 18:25:00 2003 From: shahnaz_mouhamou at hotmail.com (Shahnaz Mouhamou) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 18:25:00 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Remaining tasks for the concert - please read this! Message-ID:

1. Poster - Michael had put together an excellent poster(s) - it would be a good idea to add a contact phone number to the poster - does anyone wish to use their phone number???? We need volunteers to photocopy the poster and others do do some postering this weekend - bank street, elgin, somerset, sandy hill, etc. Any voluteers?

i hope all of u posted the posters on ur school walls and already started announcing thje concert, wetrher ur on the concert committee or not, please do it. i put my phone number on the poster at my school for more info, if u guys can do the same at ur schools, not my phone number but urs, for more info

we need some volunteers to post them up this weekend around ottwaw, please we really do need volunteers, ill be frank with u, we are very few who seems to give a shit about this and im getting pissed off, there are places where we can get bulk copy's for cheap price(and didnt no-war or cpi last time say they could help us with the copies?)

WE NEED AN ANSWER BACK, AT LEAST FOUR VOLUNTEERS, IM EXPECTING A ANSWER BACK TONIGHT, SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO SACRIFICE A FEW THINGS WE LIKE IN LIFE IN ORDER TO GET THINGS DONE.

2. Sound Equipment (Mick) and soundperson (Shahnaz)

ill call mick tonight to see if we have sound equipment, were going to need a sponsor unless we can get it for free, im going to call around once we get the price.

i have a possible sound technician,tech crew at my school, we need the euqipment first tho

3. Contract signature at Alternatif - someone needs to call Jill and confirm the arrangement (562-5800,x1112, or 864-8522) and signature.

ill call her as soon as i get the info on the sound equipment

wee need to ask her for a rehearsal date

we also need an adult to sign the contract, we need a few adults at the concert for additional security, so its not a good and fair time for the adults to bail on us

we need the 50$ for the contract one of us will go with the adult.....we need an adult......the money will be take from what we made or depending on how much our sponsor gave us

 

4. We need volunteers to help by getting there early and helping to set up and decorate the room. Volunteers?

we need at least 5 ....ill send a sepreate email an u guys respond please......how are we decorating the pace.....with what? i volunteer to go...so far we have one

 

5. Clean-up after the show. Volunteers?

i volunteer....we need at least 5.......ill send a sepreate email an u guys respond please

6. Shifts at the door, selling tickets, welcoming people and keeping safeguarding the money. Volunteers?

there will be two, two hour shifts....we need 2 at door for tickets.....with one securiy person....we need 2 at coat check..more info later

7. Media spokespersons for interviews. Two people

would be needed who are well-spoken. Volunteers?

i volunteer,....we need one more person

8. Volunteers to help with publicity. That should be

all of you...posters, leaflets, word-of-mouth.

like i said eralier......we need all around ottawa

9. 'Security' - how will this be addressed? Any

suggestions? Any volunteers?

10. And of course we need people to show up.
I don't have email access on weekends so anyone can
feel free to call me at home...523-1077.

thanks,

need 2 go...babysit...bye

mick
--- Gwen wrote:
> Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 21:20:51 -0400
> From: Gwen
> To: oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca
> Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] Posters- One Last Time
>
> Wow Michael, you're a really great artist! I like
> the first one best.
>
> Gwen
>
> Michael DeForge wrote:
> > Looks like the list serve is, finally, up and
> running again.
> >
> > Anyway, all the posters (they could be final
> drafts, but I can still change
> > anything you want on them) are available on the
> internet:
> >
> >
>
http://images.deviantart.com/large/designs/dmisc/concert_poster_1.jpg
> >
>
http://images.deviantart.com/large/designs/dmisc/blah_poster_blah_concert.jpg
>
> >
> >
>
http://images.deviantart.com/large/designs/dmisc/more_concerty_postery_final.jpg
>
> >
> >
> > Here's hoping this works.
> >
> >
>
_________________________________________________________________
> > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months
> FREE*
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> >
>
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>
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MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*. From shahnaz_mouhamou at hotmail.com Fri May 30 18:25:37 2003 From: shahnaz_mouhamou at hotmail.com (Shahnaz Mouhamou) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 18:25:37 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Remaining tasks for the concert - please read this! Message-ID:


1. Poster - Michael had put together an excellent poster(s) - it would be a good idea to add a contact phone number to the poster - does anyone wish to use their phone number???? We need volunteers to photocopy the poster and others do do some postering this weekend - bank street, elgin, somerset, sandy hill, etc. Any voluteers?

i hope all of u posted the posters on ur school walls and already started announcing thje concert, wetrher ur on the concert committee or not, please do it. i put my phone number on the poster at my school for more info, if u guys can do the same at ur schools, not my phone number but urs, for more info

we need some volunteers to post them up this weekend around ottwaw, please we really do need volunteers, ill be frank with u, we are very few who seems to give a shit about this and im getting pissed off, there are places where we can get bulk copy's for cheap price(and didnt no-war or cpi last time say they could help us with the copies?)

WE NEED AN ANSWER BACK, AT LEAST FOUR VOLUNTEERS, IM EXPECTING A ANSWER BACK TONIGHT, SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO SACRIFICE A FEW THINGS WE LIKE IN LIFE IN ORDER TO GET THINGS DONE.

2. Sound Equipment (Mick) and soundperson (Shahnaz)

ill call mick tonight to see if we have sound equipment, were going to need a sponsor unless we can get it for free, im going to call around once we get the price.

i have a possible sound technician,tech crew at my school, we need the euqipment first tho

3. Contract signature at Alternatif - someone needs to call Jill and confirm the arrangement (562-5800,x1112, or 864-8522) and signature.

ill call her as soon as i get the info on the sound equipment

wee need to ask her for a rehearsal date

we also need an adult to sign the contract, we need a few adults at the concert for additional security, so its not a good and fair time for the adults to bail on us

we need the 50$ for the contract one of us will go with the adult.....we need an adult......the money will be take from what we made or depending on how much our sponsor gave us

 

4. We need volunteers to help by getting there early and helping to set up and decorate the room. Volunteers?

we need at least 5 ....ill send a sepreate email an u guys respond please......how are we decorating the pace.....with what? i volunteer to go...so far we have one

 

5. Clean-up after the show. Volunteers?

i volunteer....we need at least 5.......ill send a sepreate email an u guys respond please

6. Shifts at the door, selling tickets, welcoming people and keeping safeguarding the money. Volunteers?

there will be two, two hour shifts....we need 2 at door for tickets.....with one securiy person....we need 2 at coat check..more info later

7. Media spokespersons for interviews. Two people

would be needed who are well-spoken. Volunteers?

i volunteer,....we need one more person

8. Volunteers to help with publicity. That should be

all of you...posters, leaflets, word-of-mouth.

like i said eralier......we need all around ottawa

9. 'Security' - how will this be addressed? Any

suggestions? Any volunteers?

10. And of course we need people to show up.

I don't have email access on weekends so anyone can

feel free to call me at home...523-1077.

thanks,

need 2 go...babysit...bye

mick

--- Gwen wrote:

> Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 21:20:51 -0400

> From: Gwen

> To: oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca

> Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] Posters- One Last Time

>

> Wow Michael, you're a really great artist! I like

> the first one best.

>

> Gwen

>

> Michael DeForge wrote:

> > Looks like the list serve is, finally, up and

> running again.

> >

> > Anyway, all the posters (they could be final

> drafts, but I can still change

> > anything you want on them) are available on the

> internet:

> >

> >

>

http://images.deviantart.com/large/designs/dmisc/concert_poster_1.jpg

> >

>

http://images.deviantart.com/large/designs/dmisc/blah_poster_blah_concert.jpg

>

> >

> >

>

http://images.deviantart.com/large/designs/dmisc/more_concerty_postery_final.jpg

>

> >

> >

> > Here's hoping this works.

> >

> >

>

_________________________________________________________________

> > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months

> FREE*

> > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

> >

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> > Oosaw-eoocg at members.cupe.ca

> > http://www.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg

> >

>

> --

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> (A)

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>

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MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*. From digitalerica at rogers.com Fri May 30 20:29:51 2003 From: digitalerica at rogers.com (Erica Woolley) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 20:29:51 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Remaining tasks for the concert - please read this! References: Message-ID: <004f01c3270b$c083ea20$8213c018@slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01C326EA.391E5DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey everyone (I will write in Green) sorry had to re-write this email = again as my computer crashed. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Shahnaz Mouhamou=20 To: mspanesar2 at yahoo.com ; bahija.1 at rogers.com ; = oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca=20 Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 6:25 PM Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Remaining tasks for the concert - please read = this! 1. Poster - Michael had put together an excellent poster(s) - it would = be a good idea to add a contact phone number to the poster - does anyone = wish to use their phone number???? We need volunteers to photocopy the = poster and others do do some postering this weekend - bank street, = elgin, somerset, sandy hill, etc. Any voluteers?=20 i hope all of u posted the posters on ur school walls and already = started announcing thje concert, wetrher ur on the concert committee or = not, please do it. i put my phone number on the poster at my school for = more info, if u guys can do the same at ur schools, not my phone number = but urs, for more info we need some volunteers to post them up this weekend around ottwaw, = please we really do need volunteers, ill be frank with u, we are very = few who seems to give a shit about this and im getting pissed off, there = are places where we can get bulk copy's for cheap price(and didnt no-war = or cpi last time say they could help us with the copies?) WE NEED AN ANSWER BACK, AT LEAST FOUR VOLUNTEERS, IM EXPECTING A = ANSWER BACK TONIGHT, SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO SACRIFICE A FEW THINGS WE LIKE = IN LIFE IN ORDER TO GET THINGS DONE. A central location that we use to drop off the posters or to pick them = up is:=20 Octopus Books 116 Third Ave. (at Bank St. in the Glebe) Ottawa, ON K1S 2K1 Wk: 233-2589 Fx: 236-6654 Some things to consider are: not postering too much of the street use = your discretion, using clear tape and wrapping it several times around = the pole avoids people tearing it down, poster boards downtown don't get = the posters torn down as quickly (they do it twice a week however), = avoid putting under windshield wipers & bus stations, you can ask some = local retailers to put them up in their shops (for instance mcdonalds is = obvious they would say no). Email and contacting people through word of = mouth is always the most effective way. I stressed at a OSAW meeting two = weeks ago having a postering committee to set this up but obviously it = didn't work out. I can request to NOWAR an action to put up the details of the concert = on their website. However, I need it to be okay from OSAW cause this may = mean more than a few adults will be there. I will also forward the = callout to NOWAR listserve and CPI via email (has anyone sent out an = email and can I get one). Gwen would it be possible to forward to ACA? 2. Sound Equipment (Mick) and soundperson (Shahnaz)=20 ill call mick tonight to see if we have sound equipment, were going to = need a sponsor unless we can get it for free, im going to call around = once we get the price. i have a possible sound technician,tech crew at my school, we need the = euqipment first tho I'm sorry I can't help you guys out in this aspect. I've only been in = Ottawa for 3.5 months and have no connections in that department. = Brenden and Aidan didn't you guys say you might be able to get some = equipment from your dad??? I have no car unfortunately with going green = but I have CC'd a bunch of other people that may be able to help. It is = getting to be a bit of a crunch and would've been preferred to have more = notice. 3. Contract signature at Alternatif - someone needs to call Jill and = confirm the arrangement (562-5800,x1112, or 864-8522) and signature.=20 ill call her as soon as i get the info on the sound equipment wee need to ask her for a rehearsal date we also need an adult to sign the contract, we need a few adults at = the concert for additional security, so its not a good and fair time for = the adults to bail on us we need the 50$ for the contract one of us will go with the = adult.....we need an adult......the money will be take from what we made = or depending on how much our sponsor gave us Stuart Ryan the NOWAR treasurer may be able to help you out = (sryan at ccs.carleton.ca) with lending you guys the $50 which then could = be reimbursed upon after the show (unless the person going can just chip = in 50 bucks). For several reasons I do not feel confortable signing the = contract. I know this may seem like a bit of a cop out but I've only = been with CPI for less than 60 days and am not familiar with the process = of organizing events. I've been put in an akward position with having = attended many meetings but I feel another CPI member offer this support. = I also been straight up with my own concerns to all of you about = security and OSAW's attitude in just letting things happen with no = appointed security. There was many of you that said that some of your = friends could help out which would be nice to have some final = confirmation that people will be taking responsibility for that.=20 4. We need volunteers to help by getting there early and helping to = set up and decorate the room. Volunteers?=20 we need at least 5 ....ill send a sepreate email an u guys respond = please......how are we decorating the pace.....with what? i volunteer to = go...so far we have one I can get to Cafe Alternatif early and help out with the set up and = decorations. Brenden & Aiden you offered to bring the OSAW banner. Is = this adequate for everyone? I'm all up for decorating but this OSAW's = fundraiser and want the ideas come from you guys. As far as decorations = go my opinion is that they are not necessary. BUT its important to have = everything set in order like tables and chairs being moved around and if = we are going to have food and drinks whos going to get it there? Didn't = someone say they might be able to get stuff donated? What about the = "peace" aspect of the concert, is there going to be literature handed = out at the show? How will "peace" be marketed at the concert? Any = speeches? 5. Clean-up after the show. Volunteers?=20 i volunteer....we need at least 5.......ill send a sepreate email an u = guys respond please Again I can volunteer for this. Unfortunately with not having a car I = can't bring cleaning stuff (mops, brooms etc) Does anyone know if they = have that stuff at Cafe Alternatif? I can bring some garbage bags. 6. Shifts at the door, selling tickets, welcoming people and keeping = safeguarding the money. Volunteers?=20 there will be two, two hour shifts....we need 2 at door for = tickets.....with one securiy person....we need 2 at coat check..more = info later Not trying to discriminate but I think with safeguarding money or = security people with size would be preferred. What do you think? I don't = fit in that catagory unless you include my rear end in the equation. 7. Media spokespersons for interviews. Two people=20 would be needed who are well-spoken. Volunteers?=20 i volunteer,....we need one more person This will need to be done by another high school student obviously 8. Volunteers to help with publicity. That should be=20 all of you...posters, leaflets, word-of-mouth.=20 like i said eralier......we need all around ottawa I'll do what I can. Is the posters been confirmed??? 9. 'Security' - how will this be addressed? Any=20 suggestions? Any volunteers?=20 As I have suggested repeated times we need people to sign up for this. = Maybe getting people to agree to wear a certain color (white t-shirt) or = a white arm band might be helpful to distingish them. I would rather not = put myself in that position. 10. And of course we need people to show up.=20 I don't have email access on weekends so anyone can=20 feel free to call me at home...523-1077.=20 I just want to add that CPI has offered assistance in any way we can = but OSAW made it clear that you wanted us to be more of an outlet tool = rather than an organizing tool. We are trying to offer support anyway we = can but frankly I personally was under the impression that OSAW wanted = to do much of the preparation and planning yourselves. I've tried to = offer the knowledge where I can but it can only go so far when we aren't = the ones organizing the event. I hope that more students will step up to the plate to plan the event = that many of you have so far contributed to. I would stress that I would = seriously consider whether the responsibilities that have been outlined = can be done before going ahead with the concert. Its less than 7 days = away. Otherwise I hate to say this but if people don't make some = commitments soon it may be better to just cancel it. I think Shahnaz has = done a fabolous job trying to co-ordinate the event but it will need = more than her to organize it. The rehearsals still have yet to be = addressed what time and where those are going to take place or if the = bands should just show up to the gig. Erica thanks,=20 need 2 go...babysit...bye mick=20 --- Gwen wrote:=20 > Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 21:20:51 -0400=20 > From: Gwen=20 > To: oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca=20 > Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] Posters- One Last Time=20 >=20 > Wow Michael, you're a really great artist! I like=20 > the first one best.=20 >=20 > Gwen=20 >=20 > Michael DeForge wrote:=20 > > Looks like the list serve is, finally, up and=20 > running again.=20 > >=20 > > Anyway, all the posters (they could be final=20 > drafts, but I can still change=20 > > anything you want on them) are available on the=20 > internet:=20 > >=20 > >=20 >=20 http://images.deviantart.com/large/designs/dmisc/concert_poster_1.jpg=20 > >=20 >=20 = http://images.deviantart.com/large/designs/dmisc/blah_poster_blah_concert= .jpg=20 >=20 > >=20 > >=20 >=20 = http://images.deviantart.com/large/designs/dmisc/more_concerty_postery_fi= nal.jpg=20 >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > Here's hoping this works.=20 > >=20 > >=20 >=20 _________________________________________________________________=20 > > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months=20 > FREE*=20 > > http://join.msn.com/?page=3Dfeatures/junkmail=20 > >=20 > > _______________________________________________=20 > > Oosaw-eoocg mailing list=20 > > Oosaw-eoocg at members.cupe.ca=20 > > http://www.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg=20 > >=20 >=20 > --=20 > No masters, no slaves=20 > (A)=20 > http://gwen.nocog.org=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________=20 > Oosaw-eoocg mailing list=20 > Oosaw-eoocg at members.cupe.ca=20 > http://www.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20 Please read Iraq Peace Team reports at www.nowar-paix.ca=20 The conservation movement is a breeding ground of Communists and other = subversives. We intend to clean them out, even if it means rounding up = every bird watcher in the country.=20 --John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-1972, as quoted in the New = Jersey Sierra Club's Newsletter, Sierra Activist, Vol. 3, No. 9 (October = 1997).=20 __________________________________=20 Do you Yahoo!?=20 Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).=20 http://calendar.yahoo.com=20 _______________________________________________=20 Oosaw-eoocg mailing list=20 Oosaw-eoocg at members.cupe.ca=20 http://www.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. 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Hey everyone (I = will write in=20 Green) sorry had to re-write this email again as my computer=20 crashed.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Shahnaz Mouhamou =
To: mspanesar2 at yahoo.com ; bahija.1 at rogers.com ; oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca =
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 6:25 = PM
Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] = Remaining tasks=20 for the concert - please read this!

1. Poster - Michael had put together an excellent poster(s) - it = would be a=20 good idea to add a contact phone number to the poster - does anyone = wish to=20 use their phone number???? We need volunteers to photocopy the poster = and=20 others do do some postering this weekend - bank street, elgin, = somerset, sandy=20 hill, etc. Any voluteers?

i hope all of u posted the posters on ur = school walls=20 and already started announcing thje concert, wetrher ur on the concert = committee or not, please do it. i put my phone number on the poster at = my=20 school for more info, if u guys can do the same at ur schools, not my = phone=20 number but urs, for more info

we need some volunteers to post them up this = weekend=20 around ottwaw, please we really do need volunteers, ill be frank with = u, we=20 are very few who seems to give a shit about this and im getting pissed = off,=20 there are places where we can get bulk copy's for cheap price(and = didnt no-war=20 or cpi last time say they could help us with the copies?)

WE NEED AN ANSWER BACK, AT LEAST FOUR = VOLUNTEERS, IM=20 EXPECTING A ANSWER BACK TONIGHT, SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO SACRIFICE A FEW = THINGS=20 WE LIKE IN LIFE IN ORDER TO GET THINGS DONE.

A central = location that we=20 use to drop off the posters or to pick them up is:

Octopus = Books
116=20 Third Ave. (at Bank St. in the Glebe)
Ottawa, ON K1S 2K1
Wk:=20 233-2589
Fx: 236-6654

Some things to consider are: not postering = too much of=20 the street use your discretion, using clear tape and wrapping it = several times=20 around the pole avoids people tearing it down, poster boards downtown = don't=20 get the posters torn down as quickly (they do it twice a week = however), avoid=20 putting under windshield wipers & bus stations, you can ask some = local=20 retailers to put them up in their shops (for instance mcdonalds is = obvious=20 they would say no). Email and contacting people through word of mouth = is=20 always the most effective way. I stressed at a OSAW meeting two weeks = ago=20 having a postering committee to set this up but obviously it didn't = work=20 out.

I can request = to NOWAR an=20 action to put up the details of the concert on their website. However, = I need=20 it to be okay from OSAW cause this may mean more than a few adults = will be=20 there. I will also forward the callout to NOWAR listserve and CPI via = email=20 (has anyone sent out an email and can I get one). Gwen would it be = possible to=20 forward to ACA?

=

2.=20 Sound Equipment (Mick) and soundperson (Shahnaz)=20 =

=

ill call mick tonight to see if we have sound = equipment, were=20 going to need a sponsor unless we can get it for free, im going to = call around=20 once we get the=20 = price.

=

i have a possible sound technician,tech crew at my = school, we=20 need the euqipment first tho

I'm sorry I = can't help you=20 guys out in this aspect. I've only been in Ottawa for 3.5 months and = have no=20 connections in that department. Brenden and Aidan didn't you guys say = you=20 might be able to get some equipment from your dad??? I have no car=20 unfortunately with going green but I have CC'd a bunch of other people = that=20 may be able to help. It is getting to be a bit of a crunch and = would've been=20 preferred to have more notice.

3. Contract signature at Alternatif - someone needs to call Jill = and=20 confirm the arrangement (562-5800,x1112, or 864-8522) and signature. =

ill call her as soon as i get the info on the = sound=20 equipment

wee need to ask her for a rehearsal = date

we also need an adult to sign the contract, = we need a=20 few adults at the concert for additional security, so its not a good = and fair=20 time for the adults to bail on us

we need the 50$ for the contract one of us = will go with=20 the adult.....we need an adult......the money will be take from what = we made=20 or depending on how much our sponsor gave us

Stuart Ryan=20 the NOWAR treasurer may be able to help you out (sryan at ccs.carleton.ca) with lending you guys the $50 which then could be = reimbursed=20 upon after the show (unless the person going can just chip in 50 = bucks). For=20 several reasons I do not feel confortable signing the contract. I know = this=20 may seem like a bit of a cop out but I've only been with CPI for less = than 60=20 days and am not familiar with the process of organizing = events. I've been=20 put in an akward position with having attended many meetings but I = feel=20 another CPI member offer this support. I also been straight = up with=20 my own concerns to all of you about security and OSAW's attitude in = just=20 letting things happen with no appointed security. There was many of = you that=20 said that some of your friends could help out which would be nice to = have some=20 final confirmation that people will be taking responsibility for = that.=20

4. We need volunteers to help by getting there early and helping to = set up=20 and decorate the room. Volunteers?

we need at least 5 ....ill send a sepreate = email an u=20 guys respond please......how are we decorating the pace.....with what? = i=20 volunteer to go...so far we have one

I can get to = Cafe Alternatif=20 early and help out with the set up and decorations. Brenden & = Aiden you=20 offered to bring the OSAW banner. Is this adequate for everyone? I'm = all up=20 for decorating but this OSAW's fundraiser and want the ideas come from = you=20 guys. As far as decorations go my opinion is that they are not = necessary. BUT=20 its important to have everything set in order like tables and chairs = being=20 moved around and if we are going to have food and drinks whos going to = get it=20 there? Didn't someone say they might be able to get stuff donated? = What about=20 the "peace" aspect of the concert, is there going to be literature = handed out=20 at the show? How will "peace" be marketed at the concert? Any=20 speeches?

5. Clean-up after the show. Volunteers?

i volunteer....we need at least = 5.......ill send a sepreate email an u guys respond=20 please

Again I can = volunteer for=20 this. Unfortunately with not having a car I can't bring cleaning stuff = (mops,=20 brooms etc) Does anyone know if they have that stuff at Cafe = Alternatif? I can=20 bring some garbage bags.

6. Shifts at the door, selling tickets, welcoming people and = keeping=20 safeguarding the money. Volunteers?

there will be two, two hour shifts....we need = 2 at door=20 for tickets.....with one securiy person....we need 2 at coat = check..more info=20 later

Not trying=20 to discriminate but I think with safeguarding money or = security=20 people with size would be preferred. What do you think? I don't fit in = that=20 catagory unless you include my rear end in the equation.

7. Media spokespersons for interviews. Two people

would be needed who are well-spoken. Volunteers?

i volunteer,....we need one more = person

This will need = to be done by=20 another high school student obviously

8. Volunteers to help with publicity. That should be

all of you...posters, leaflets, word-of-mouth.

like i said eralier......we need all around=20 ottawa

I'll do what I = can. Is the=20 posters been confirmed???

9. 'Security' - how will this be addressed? Any

suggestions? Any volunteers?

As I have = suggested repeated=20 times we need people to sign up for this. Maybe getting people to = agree to=20 wear a certain color (white t-shirt) or a white arm band might be = helpful=20 to distingish them. I would rather not put myself in that = position.

10. And of course we need people to show up.
I don't have email access on weekends so anyone can
feel free to call me at home...523-1077.

I just want to add = that CPI=20 has offered assistance in any way we can but OSAW made it clear that = you=20 wanted us to be more of an outlet tool rather than an organizing tool. = We are=20 trying to offer support anyway we can but frankly I personally was = under the=20 impression that OSAW wanted to do much of the preparation and planning = yourselves. I've tried to offer the knowledge where I can but it can = only go=20 so far when we aren't the ones organizing the event.
 
I hope that more = students will=20 step up to the plate to plan the event that many of you have so far=20 contributed to. I = would stress=20 that I would seriously consider whether the responsibilities that have = been=20 outlined can be done before going ahead with the concert. Its less = than 7 days=20 away. Otherwise I hate to say this but if people don't make some = commitments=20 soon it may be better to just cancel it. I think Shahnaz has done a = fabolous=20 job trying to co-ordinate the event but it will need more than her to = organize=20 it. The rehearsals still have yet to be addressed what time and where = those=20 are going to take place or if the bands should just show up to the=20 gig.

Erica

thanks,

need 2 go...babysit...bye

mick
--- Gwen wrote:
> Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 21:20:51 -0400
> From: Gwen
> To: oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca
> Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] Posters- One Last Time
>
> Wow Michael, you're a really great artist! I like
> the first one best.
>
> Gwen
>
> Michael DeForge wrote:
> > Looks like the list serve is, finally, up and
> running again.
> >
> > Anyway, all the posters (they could be final
> drafts, but I can still change
> > anything you want on them) are available on the
> internet:
> >
> >
>
=
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> >
>
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>
> >
> >
>
=
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>
> >
> >
> > Here's hoping this works.
> >
> >
>
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------=_NextPart_000_004C_01C326EA.391E5DC0-- From gwen at nocog.org Fri May 30 22:06:10 2003 From: gwen at nocog.org (Gwen) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 22:06:10 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] [Fwd: [Aca-list] WMD just a convenient excuse for war, admits Wolfowitz....] Message-ID: <3ED80E12.2040302@nocog.org> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Aca-list] WMD just a convenient excuse for war, admits Wolfowitz.... Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 16:44:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Handelman To: aca-list at lists.mutualaid.org I know this has only marginal value to the purpose of this list-serve, nonetheless, I think it's important for the anti-war movement. This is really amazing, the second-in-command of the War Department admits publicly that WMD was just an excuse. These ideologues are getting so cocky and arrogent. "The Bush administration focused on alleged weapons of mass destruction as the primary justification for toppling Saddam Hussein by force because it was politically convenient, a top-level official at the Pentagon has acknowledged...." http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=410730 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Aca-list mailing list Aca-list at lists.mutualaid.org http://lists.mutualaid.org/mailman/listinfo/aca-list free hosting provided by http://www.mutualaid.org/ -- No masters, no slaves (A) http://gwen.nocog.org From digitalerica at rogers.com Fri May 30 22:14:21 2003 From: digitalerica at rogers.com (Erica Woolley) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 22:14:21 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Sean Penn Bashes Bush Message-ID: <017101c3271a$5ada6140$8213c018@slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> > Actor Sean Penn Bashes Bush, Iraq War in Newspaper > > May 30, 8:17 pm ET > > NEW YORK (Reuters) - Actor Sean Penn published a 4,000-word open letter in > the front section of the New York Times on Friday defending his December > trip to Baghdad and criticizing the U.S.-led war on Iraq. > Penn would not comment on why he chose to place the full-page advertisement, > preferring to "let the essay speak for itself," the actor's publicist Mara > Buxbaum said. > > Penn wrote that he was moved by a sense of patriotism to question the > underlying purpose of U.S. policy to force out Saddam Hussein, who he > described as a "beast among men." > > "Our flag has been waving, it seems, in servicing a regime change > significantly benefiting U.S. corporations," said Penn, questioning whether > rebuilding the nation would benefit the "people of either Iraq or the United > States." > Penn said U.S. claims that an invasion was necessary over fears of Iraq's > weapons of mass destruction were false. > "We found that our secretary of state presented plagiarized and fictitious > evidence of WMD's in Iraq to the American people and the world," he wrote. > "Any responsible person must ask, in whose hands our flag now waves and what > perception the world may have of it in those hands." > > Penn's agent declined to comment on how much the advertisement cost. A Times > spokeswoman said the standard price for a full page ad in that section of > the newspaper is about $135,000. > > "We see Bechtel. We see Halliburton. We see Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld," Penn > wrote. "We see dead Iraqi civilians. We see no WMDs. We see chaos in the > Baghdad streets. But no WMDs. We see the disappearance of a murderous Iraqi > dictator, who relented his struggle and ran without the use of WMDs." > > Friday's piece was not the first Penn has placed in a major newspaper. He > wrote an open letter to President Bush published in October 2002 by The > Washington Post at a reported cost of $56,000, expressing his anti-war views > and concerns about the administration's "intolerance of debate." > > Penn wrote in the Times that following the October letter, "I was hit by a > tidal wave of media misrepresentation, and even accusations of treason." From shahnaz_mouhamou at hotmail.com Fri May 30 23:33:19 2003 From: shahnaz_mouhamou at hotmail.com (Shahnaz Mouhamou) Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 23:33:19 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Message-ID:

Posting Committee:

After reading this, copy it, click on forward and paste it then fill it out, then send it to the list serve, so that we can get a list going.

Ottawa:

Name

Date

Location of Posting

1.

 

 

2.

 

 

3.

 

 

4.

 

 

5.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do all the posting this weekend?.im hoping ?groupthink? is not affecting this.  Be a leader and be the first 2 write ur name.  or the second or third...etc

 

School:

Name

School Name

1. Shahnaz Mouhamou

Hillcrest High School

2.

 

3.

 

4.

 

5.

 

6.

 

7.

 

8.

 

 

 

 

 

 

We need someone to take care of the photocopies?.the people that are posting them, in bulk?the copies are 3-5cent each I think?we can either split the price or use the proceeds.

 

Photocopies:

 

 

 

shahnaz



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Posting Committee:

copy past after forward.......then fill out........send it back to the list serve.

Ottawa:

Name

Date

Location of Posting

1.

 

 

2.

 

 

3.

 

 

4.

 

 

5.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do all the posting this weekend?.im hoping ?groupthink? is not affecting this.  Be a leader and be the first 2 write ur name.  or the second or third...etc

 

School:

Name

School Name

1. Shahnaz Mouhamou

Hillcrest High School

2.

 

3.

 

4.

 

5.

 

6.

 

7.

 

8.

 

 

 

 

 

 

We need someone to take care of the photocopies?.the people that are posting them, in bulk?the copies are 3-5cent each I think?we can either split the price or use the proceeds.

 

Photocopies:

 



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i made a mistake..the copy pasting method does not work......open this attachment.... fill it out.....save it.....then resend it 2 the listserve.



Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online ------=_NextPart_000_a6e_421b_67ea Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Posting Committee.doc" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Posting Committee.doc Type: application/octet-stream Size: 35840 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.cupe.ca/pipermail/oosaw-eoocg/attachments/20030530/92fc46a3/attachment.obj ------=_NextPart_000_a6e_421b_67ea-- From gwen at nocog.org Sat May 31 00:07:28 2003 From: gwen at nocog.org (Gwen) Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 00:07:28 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Remaining tasks for the concert - please read this! In-Reply-To: <004f01c3270b$c083ea20$8213c018@slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> References: <004f01c3270b$c083ea20$8213c018@slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Message-ID: <3ED82A80.2080407@nocog.org> I can forward something to the ACA list if you like. I'm a bit lost with all this though.. which message is it that you want sent? Oh i rememebr we decided (can't remember if formally or not) that old folx were cool with us if they want to show up. G Erica Woolley wrote: > Hey everyone (I will write in Green) sorry had to re-write this email > again as my computer crashed. > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Shahnaz Mouhamou > *To:* mspanesar2 at yahoo.com ; > bahija.1 at rogers.com ; > oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca > *Sent:* Friday, May 30, 2003 6:25 PM > *Subject:* [Oosaw-eoocg] Remaining tasks for the concert - please > read this! > > 1. Poster - Michael had put together an excellent poster(s) - it > would be a good idea to add a contact phone number to the poster - > does anyone wish to use their phone number???? We need volunteers to > photocopy the poster and others do do some postering this weekend - > bank street, elgin, somerset, sandy hill, etc. Any voluteers? > > i hope all of u posted the posters on ur school walls and already > started announcing thje concert, wetrher ur on the concert committee > or not, please do it. i put my phone number on the poster at my > school for more info, if u guys can do the same at ur schools, not > my phone number but urs, for more info > > we need some volunteers to post them up this weekend around ottwaw, > please we really do need volunteers, ill be frank with u, we are > very few who seems to give a shit about this and im getting pissed > off, there are places where we can get bulk copy's for cheap > price(and didnt no-war or cpi last time say they could help us with > the copies?) > > WE NEED AN ANSWER BACK, AT LEAST FOUR VOLUNTEERS, IM EXPECTING A > ANSWER BACK TONIGHT, SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO SACRIFICE A FEW THINGS WE > LIKE IN LIFE IN ORDER TO GET THINGS DONE. > > A central location that we use to drop off the posters or to pick > them up is: > > *Octopus Books > 116 Third Ave. (at Bank St. in the Glebe) > Ottawa, ON K1S 2K1 > Wk: 233-2589 > Fx: 236-6654* > Some things to consider are: not postering too much of the street > use your discretion, using clear tape and wrapping it several times > around the pole avoids people tearing it down, poster boards > downtown don't get the posters torn down as quickly (they do it > twice a week however), avoid putting under windshield wipers & bus > stations, you can ask some local retailers to put them up in their > shops (for instance mcdonalds is obvious they would say no). Email > and contacting people through word of mouth is always the most > effective way. I stressed at a OSAW meeting two weeks ago having a > postering committee to set this up but obviously it didn't work out. > > I can request to NOWAR an action to put up the details of the > concert on their website. However, I need it to be okay from OSAW > cause this may mean more than a few adults will be there. I will > also forward the callout to NOWAR listserve and CPI via email (has > anyone sent out an email and can I get one). Gwen would it be > possible to forward to ACA? > > 2. Sound Equipment (Mick) and soundperson (Shahnaz) > > ill call mick tonight to see if we have sound equipment, were going > to need a sponsor unless we can get it for free, im going to call > around once we get the price. > > i have a possible sound technician,tech crew at my school, we need > the euqipment first tho > > I'm sorry I can't help you guys out in this aspect. I've only been > in Ottawa for 3.5 months and have no connections in that department. > Brenden and Aidan didn't you guys say you might be able to get some > equipment from your dad??? I have no car unfortunately with going > green but I have CC'd a bunch of other people that may be able to > help. It is getting to be a bit of a crunch and would've been > preferred to have more notice. > > 3. Contract signature at Alternatif - someone needs to call Jill and > confirm the arrangement (562-5800,x1112, or 864-8522) and signature. > > ill call her as soon as i get the info on the sound equipment > > wee need to ask her for a rehearsal date > > we also need an adult to sign the contract, we need a few adults at > the concert for additional security, so its not a good and fair time > for the adults to bail on us > > we need the 50$ for the contract one of us will go with the > adult.....we need an adult......the money will be take from what we > made or depending on how much our sponsor gave us > > Stuart Ryan the NOWAR treasurer may be able to help you out > (sryan at ccs.carleton.ca ) with lending > you guys the $50 which then could be reimbursed upon after the show > (unless the person going can just chip in 50 bucks). For several > reasons I do not feel confortable signing the contract. I know this > may seem like a bit of a cop out but I've only been with CPI for > less than 60 days and am not familiar with the process of organizing > events. I've been put in an akward position with having attended > many meetings but I feel another CPI member offer this support. I > also been straight up with my own concerns to all of you about > security and OSAW's attitude in just letting things happen with no > appointed security. There was many of you that said that some of > your friends could help out which would be nice to have some final > confirmation that people will be taking responsibility for that. > > 4. We need volunteers to help by getting there early and helping to > set up and decorate the room. Volunteers? > > we need at least 5 ....ill send a sepreate email an u guys respond > please......how are we decorating the pace.....with what? i > volunteer to go...so far we have one > > I can get to Cafe Alternatif early and help out with the set up and > decorations. Brenden & Aiden you offered to bring the OSAW banner. > Is this adequate for everyone? I'm all up for decorating but this > OSAW's fundraiser and want the ideas come from you guys. As far as > decorations go my opinion is that they are not necessary. BUT its > important to have everything set in order like tables and chairs > being moved around and if we are going to have food and drinks whos > going to get it there? Didn't someone say they might be able to get > stuff donated? What about the "peace" aspect of the concert, is > there going to be literature handed out at the show? How > will "peace" be marketed at the concert? Any speeches? > > 5. Clean-up after the show. Volunteers? > > i volunteer....we need at least 5.......ill send a sepreate email an > u guys respond please > > Again I can volunteer for this. Unfortunately with not having a car > I can't bring cleaning stuff (mops, brooms etc) Does anyone know if > they have that stuff at Cafe Alternatif? I can bring some garbage bags. > > 6. Shifts at the door, selling tickets, welcoming people and keeping > safeguarding the money. Volunteers? > > there will be two, two hour shifts....we need 2 at door for > tickets.....with one securiy person....we need 2 at coat check..more > info later > > Not trying to discriminate but I think with safeguarding money or > security people with size would be preferred. What do you think? I > don't fit in that catagory unless you include my rear end in the > equation. > > 7. Media spokespersons for interviews. Two people > > would be needed who are well-spoken. Volunteers? > > i volunteer,....we need one more person > > This will need to be done by another high school student obviously > > 8. Volunteers to help with publicity. That should be > > all of you...posters, leaflets, word-of-mouth. > > like i said eralier......we need all around ottawa > > I'll do what I can. Is the posters been confirmed??? > > 9. 'Security' - how will this be addressed? Any > > suggestions? Any volunteers? > > As I have suggested repeated times we need people to sign up for > this. Maybe getting people to agree to wear a certain color (white > t-shirt) or a white arm band might be helpful to distingish them. I > would rather not put myself in that position. > > 10. And of course we need people to show up. > I don't have email access on weekends so anyone can > feel free to call me at home...523-1077. > > I just want to add that CPI has offered assistance in any way we can > but OSAW made it clear that you wanted us to be more of an outlet > tool rather than an organizing tool. We are trying to offer support > anyway we can but frankly I personally was under the impression that > OSAW wanted to do much of the preparation and planning yourselves. > I've tried to offer the knowledge where I can but it can only go so > far when we aren't the ones organizing the event. > > I hope that more students will step up to the plate to plan the > event that many of you have so far contributed to. I would stress > that I would seriously consider whether the responsibilities that > have been outlined can be done before going ahead with the concert. > Its less than 7 days away. Otherwise I hate to say this but if > people don't make some commitments soon it may be better to just > cancel it. I think Shahnaz has done a fabolous job trying to > co-ordinate the event but it will need more than her to organize it. > The rehearsals still have yet to be addressed what time and where > those are going to take place or if the bands should just show up to > the gig. > > Erica > > thanks, > > need 2 go...babysit...bye > > mick > --- Gwen wrote: > > Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 21:20:51 -0400 > > From: Gwen > > To: oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca > > Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] Posters- One Last Time > > > > Wow Michael, you're a really great artist! I like > > the first one best. > > > > Gwen > > > > Michael DeForge wrote: > > > Looks like the list serve is, finally, up and > > running again. > > > > > > Anyway, all the posters (they could be final > > drafts, but I can still change > > > anything you want on them) are available on the > > internet: > > > > > > > > > http://images.deviantart.com/large/designs/dmisc/concert_poster_1.jpg > > > > > > http://images.deviantart.com/large/designs/dmisc/blah_poster_blah_concert.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > http://images.deviantart.com/large/designs/dmisc/more_concerty_postery_final.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's hoping this works. > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months > > FREE* > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Oosaw-eoocg mailing list > > > Oosaw-eoocg at members.cupe.ca > > > http://www.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg > > > > > > > -- > > No masters, no slaves > > (A) > > http://gwen.nocog.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Oosaw-eoocg mailing list > > Oosaw-eoocg at members.cupe.ca > > http://www.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg > ===== > Please read Iraq Peace Team reports at www.nowar-paix.ca > The conservation movement is a breeding ground of Communists and > other subversives. 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Gwen Shahnaz Mouhamou wrote: > /We need someone to take care of the photocopies?.the people that are > posting them, in bulk?the copies are 3-5cent each I think?we can either > split the price or use the proceeds./ -- No masters, no slaves (A) http://gwen.nocog.org From digitalerica at rogers.com Sat May 31 19:37:12 2003 From: digitalerica at rogers.com (Erica Woolley) Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 19:37:12 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Re: ??? References: <004f01c3270b$c083ea20$8213c018@slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> <3ED82A80.2080407@nocog.org> Message-ID: <032b01c327cd$91a9a920$8213c018@slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Good evening, Thanks Gwen and Shahnaz for staying on top of your email. I'm really concerned that the tasks that have been outlined for the concert aren't going to happen (its awfully quiet). Its your guys' event so I'll leave the decision in your hands but I would strongly urge the group to think before committing $50 (Cafe Alternatif) and other money to photocopy if the group won't be able to do whats needed (less than 6 days now). Not to mention the bands that have already been notified to play. I REALLY hope the show will go on but I want to know before I start emailing around that this event is actually going to happen. Where is everyone????? Erica ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gwen" To: "Erica Woolley" Cc: "Mellian of Ottawa" ; ; ; ; "Shahnaz Mouhamou" ; ; Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] Remaining tasks for the concert - please read this! > I can forward something to the ACA list if you like. > > I'm a bit lost with all this though.. which message is it that you want > sent? > > Oh i rememebr we decided (can't remember if formally or not) that old > folx were cool with us if they want to show up. > > G From bahija.1 at rogers.com Sat May 31 23:38:36 2003 From: bahija.1 at rogers.com (bahija2) Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 23:38:36 -0400 Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Remaining tasks for the concert - please read this! References: <004f01c3270b$c083ea20$8213c018@slnt.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Message-ID: <3ED9753C.2050008@rogers.com> --------------050406020802010604020300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Kevin and Clay (and CPI members at large): I noticed that you were not included in the recipients' list. I thought you may be interested in helping (see below) as you were the high school students' first contacts. Perhaps other CPI members could also pitch in and support this initiative by the younger activists. B. Erica Woolley wrote: > Hey everyone (I will write in Green) sorry had to re-write this email > again as my computer crashed. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Shahnaz Mouhamou > To: mspanesar2 at yahoo.com ; > bahija.1 at rogers.com ; > oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 6:25 PM > Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Remaining tasks for the concert - please > read this! > > 1. Poster - Michael had put together an excellent poster(s) - it > would be a good idea to add a contact phone number to the poster - > does anyone wish to use their phone number???? We need volunteers > to photocopy the poster and others do do some postering this > weekend - bank street, elgin, somerset, sandy hill, etc. Any > voluteers? > > i hope all of u posted the posters on ur school walls and already > started announcing thje concert, wetrher ur on the concert > committee or not, please do it. i put my phone number on the > poster at my school for more info, if u guys can do the same at ur > schools, not my phone number but urs, for more info > > we need some volunteers to post them up this weekend around > ottwaw, please we really do need volunteers, ill be frank with u, > we are very few who seems to give a shit about this and im getting > pissed off, there are places where we can get bulk copy's for > cheap price(and didnt no-war or cpi last time say they could help > us with the copies?) > > WE NEED AN ANSWER BACK, AT LEAST FOUR VOLUNTEERS, IM EXPECTING A > ANSWER BACK TONIGHT, SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO SACRIFICE A FEW THINGS > WE LIKE IN LIFE IN ORDER TO GET THINGS DONE. > > A central location that we use to drop off the posters or to pick > them up is: > > Octopus Books > 116 Third Ave. (at Bank St. in the Glebe) > Ottawa, ON K1S 2K1 > Wk: 233-2589 > Fx: 236-6654 > Some things to consider are: not postering too much of the street > use your discretion, using clear tape and wrapping it several > times around the pole avoids people tearing it down, poster boards > downtown don't get the posters torn down as quickly (they do it > twice a week however), avoid putting under windshield wipers & bus > stations, you can ask some local retailers to put them up in their > shops (for instance mcdonalds is obvious they would say no). Email > and contacting people through word of mouth is always the most > effective way. I stressed at a OSAW meeting two weeks ago having a > postering committee to set this up but obviously it didn't work out. > > I can request to NOWAR an action to put up the details of the > concert on their website. However, I need it to be okay from OSAW > cause this may mean more than a few adults will be there. I will > also forward the callout to NOWAR listserve and CPI via email (has > anyone sent out an email and can I get one). Gwen would it be > possible to forward to ACA? > > 2. Sound Equipment (Mick) and soundperson (Shahnaz) > > ill call mick tonight to see if we have sound equipment, were > going to need a sponsor unless we can get it for free, im going to > call around once we get the price. > > i have a possible sound technician,tech crew at my school, we need > the euqipment first tho > > I'm sorry I can't help you guys out in this aspect. I've only been > in Ottawa for 3.5 months and have no connections in that > department. Brenden and Aidan didn't you guys say you might be > able to get some equipment from your dad??? I have no car > unfortunately with going green but I have CC'd a bunch of other > people that may be able to help. It is getting to be a bit of a > crunch and would've been preferred to have more notice. > > 3. Contract signature at Alternatif - someone needs to call Jill > and confirm the arrangement (562-5800,x1112, or 864-8522) and > signature. > > ill call her as soon as i get the info on the sound equipment > > wee need to ask her for a rehearsal date > > we also need an adult to sign the contract, we need a few adults > at the concert for additional security, so its not a good and fair > time for the adults to bail on us > > we need the 50$ for the contract one of us will go with the > adult.....we need an adult......the money will be take from what > we made or depending on how much our sponsor gave us > > Stuart Ryan the NOWAR treasurer may be able to help you out > (sryan at ccs.carleton.ca ) with > lending you guys the $50 which then could be reimbursed upon after > the show (unless the person going can just chip in 50 bucks). For > several reasons I do not feel confortable signing the contract. I > know this may seem like a bit of a cop out but I've only been with > CPI for less than 60 days and am not familiar with the process of > organizing events. I've been put in an akward position with having > attended many meetings but I feel another CPI member offer this > support. I also been straight up with my own concerns to all of > you about security and OSAW's attitude in just letting things > happen with no appointed security. There was many of you that said > that some of your friends could help out which would be nice to > have some final confirmation that people will be taking > responsibility for that. > > 4. We need volunteers to help by getting there early and helping > to set up and decorate the room. Volunteers? > > we need at least 5 ....ill send a sepreate email an u guys respond > please......how are we decorating the pace.....with what? i > volunteer to go...so far we have one > > I can get to Cafe Alternatif early and help out with the set up > and decorations. Brenden & Aiden you offered to bring the OSAW > banner. Is this adequate for everyone? I'm all up for decorating > but this OSAW's fundraiser and want the ideas come from you guys. > As far as decorations go my opinion is that they are not > necessary. BUT its important to have everything set in order like > tables and chairs being moved around and if we are going to have > food and drinks whos going to get it there? Didn't someone say > they might be able to get stuff donated? What about the "peace" > aspect of the concert, is there going to be literature handed out > at the show? How will "peace" be marketed at the concert? Any > speeches? > > 5. Clean-up after the show. Volunteers? > > i volunteer....we need at least 5.......ill send a sepreate email > an u guys respond please > > Again I can volunteer for this. Unfortunately with not having a > car I can't bring cleaning stuff (mops, brooms etc) Does anyone > know if they have that stuff at Cafe Alternatif? I can bring some > garbage bags. > > 6. Shifts at the door, selling tickets, welcoming people and > keeping safeguarding the money. Volunteers? > > there will be two, two hour shifts....we need 2 at door for > tickets.....with one securiy person....we need 2 at coat > check..more info later > > Not trying to discriminate but I think with safeguarding money or > security people with size would be preferred. What do you think? I > don't fit in that catagory unless you include my rear end in the > equation. > > 7. Media spokespersons for interviews. Two people > > would be needed who are well-spoken. Volunteers? > > i volunteer,....we need one more person > > This will need to be done by another high school student obviously > > 8. Volunteers to help with publicity. That should be > > all of you...posters, leaflets, word-of-mouth. > > like i said eralier......we need all around ottawa > > I'll do what I can. Is the posters been confirmed??? > > 9. 'Security' - how will this be addressed? Any > > suggestions? Any volunteers? > > As I have suggested repeated times we need people to sign up for > this. Maybe getting people to agree to wear a certain color (white > t-shirt) or a white arm band might be helpful to distingish them. > I would rather not put myself in that position. > > 10. And of course we need people to show up. > I don't have email access on weekends so anyone can > feel free to call me at home...523-1077. > > I just want to add that CPI has offered assistance in any way we > can but OSAW made it clear that you wanted us to be more of an > outlet tool rather than an organizing tool. We are trying to offer > support anyway we can but frankly I personally was under the > impression that OSAW wanted to do much of the preparation and > planning yourselves. I've tried to offer the knowledge where I can > but it can only go so far when we aren't the ones organizing the > event. > > I hope that more students will step up to the plate to plan the > event that many of you have so far contributed to. I would stress > that I would seriously consider whether the responsibilities that > have been outlined can be done before going ahead with the > concert. Its less than 7 days away. Otherwise I hate to say this > but if people don't make some commitments soon it may be better to > just cancel it. I think Shahnaz has done a fabolous job trying to > co-ordinate the event but it will need more than her to organize > it. The rehearsals still have yet to be addressed what time and > where those are going to take place or if the bands should just > show up to the gig. > > Erica > > thanks, > > need 2 go...babysit...bye > > mick > --- Gwen wrote: > > Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 21:20:51 -0400 > > From: Gwen > > To: oosaw-eoocg at lists.cupe.ca > > Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] Posters- One Last Time > > > > Wow Michael, you're a really great artist! I like > > the first one best. > > > > Gwen > > > > Michael DeForge wrote: > > > Looks like the list serve is, finally, up and > > running again. > > > > > > Anyway, all the posters (they could be final > > drafts, but I can still change > > > anything you want on them) are available on the > > internet: > > > > > > > > > http://images.deviantart.com/large/designs/dmisc/concert_poster_1.jpg > > > > > > http://images.deviantart.com/large/designs/dmisc/blah_poster_blah_concert.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > http://images.deviantart.com/large/designs/dmisc/more_concerty_postery_final.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's hoping this works. > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months > > FREE* > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Oosaw-eoocg mailing list > > > Oosaw-eoocg at members.cupe.ca > > > http://www.cupe.ca/mailman/listinfo/oosaw-eoocg > --------------050406020802010604020300 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Kevin and Clay (and CPI members at large):
I noticed that you were not included in the recipients' list. I thought you may be interested in helping (see below) as you were the high school students' first contacts. Perhaps other CPI members could also pitch in and support this initiative by the younger activists.
B.

Erica Woolley wrote:
Hey everyone (I will write in Green) sorry had to re-write this email again as my computer crashed.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 6:25 PM
Subject: [Oosaw-eoocg] Remaining tasks for the concert - please read this!

1. Poster - Michael had put together an excellent poster(s) - it would be a good idea to add a contact phone number to the poster - does anyone wish to use their phone number???? We need volunteers to photocopy the poster and others do do some postering this weekend - bank street, elgin, somerset, sandy hill, etc. Any voluteers?

i hope all of u posted the posters on ur school walls and already started announcing thje concert, wetrher ur on the concert committee or not, please do it. i put my phone number on the poster at my school for more info, if u guys can do the same at ur schools, not my phone number but urs, for more info

we need some volunteers to post them up this weekend around ottwaw, please we really do need volunteers, ill be frank with u, we are very few who seems to give a shit about this and im getting pissed off, there are places where we can get bulk copy's for cheap price(and didnt no-war or cpi last time say they could help us with the copies?)

WE NEED AN ANSWER BACK, AT LEAST FOUR VOLUNTEERS, IM EXPECTING A ANSWER BACK TONIGHT, SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO SACRIFICE A FEW THINGS WE LIKE IN LIFE IN ORDER TO GET THINGS DONE.

A central location that we use to drop off the posters or to pick them up is:

Octopus Books
116 Third Ave. (at Bank St. in the Glebe)
Ottawa, ON K1S 2K1
Wk: 233-2589
Fx: 236-6654

Some things to consider are: not postering too much of the street use your discretion, using clear tape and wrapping it several times around the pole avoids people tearing it down, poster boards downtown don't get the posters torn down as quickly (they do it twice a week however), avoid putting under windshield wipers & bus stations, you can ask some local retailers to put them up in their shops (for instance mcdonalds is obvious they would say no). Email and contacting people through word of mouth is always the most effective way. I stressed at a OSAW meeting two weeks ago having a postering committee to set this up but obviously it didn't work out.

I can request to NOWAR an action to put up the details of the concert on their website. However, I need it to be okay from OSAW cause this may mean more than a few adults will be there. I will also forward the callout to NOWAR listserve and CPI via email (has anyone sent out an email and can I get one). Gwen would it be possible to forward to ACA?

2. Sound Equipment (Mick) and soundperson (Shahnaz)

ill call mick tonight to see if we have sound equipment, were going to need a sponsor unless we can get it for free, im going to call around once we get the price.

i have a possible sound technician,tech crew at my school, we need the euqipment first tho

I'm sorry I can't help you guys out in this aspect. I've only been in Ottawa for 3.5 months and have no connections in that department. Brenden and Aidan didn't you guys say you might be able to get some equipment from your dad??? I have no car unfortunately with going green but I have CC'd a bunch of other people that may be able to help. It is getting to be a bit of a crunch and would've been preferred to have more notice.

3. Contract signature at Alternatif - someone needs to call Jill and confirm the arrangement (562-5800,x1112, or 864-8522) and signature.

ill call her as soon as i get the info on the sound equipment

wee need to ask her for a rehearsal date

we also need an adult to sign the contract, we need a few adults at the concert for additional security, so its not a good and fair time for the adults to bail on us

we need the 50$ for the contract one of us will go with the adult.....we need an adult......the money will be take from what we made or depending on how much our sponsor gave us

Stuart Ryan the NOWAR treasurer may be able to help you out (sryan at ccs.carleton.ca) with lending you guys the $50 which then could be reimbursed upon after the show (unless the person going can just chip in 50 bucks). For several reasons I do not feel confortable signing the contract. I know this may seem like a bit of a cop out but I've only been with CPI for less than 60 days and am not familiar with the process of organizing events. I've been put in an akward position with having attended many meetings but I feel another CPI member offer this support. I also been straight up with my own concerns to all of you about security and OSAW's attitude in just letting things happen with no appointed security. There was many of you that said that some of your friends could help out which would be nice to have some final confirmation that people will be taking responsibility for that.

4. We need volunteers to help by getting there early and helping to set up and decorate the room. Volunteers?

we need at least 5 ....ill send a sepreate email an u guys respond please......how are we decorating the pace.....with what? i volunteer to go...so far we have one

I can get to Cafe Alternatif early and help out with the set up and decorations. Brenden & Aiden you offered to bring the OSAW banner. Is this adequate for everyone? I'm all up for decorating but this OSAW's fundraiser and want the ideas come from you guys. As far as decorations go my opinion is that they are not necessary. BUT its important to have everything set in order like tables and chairs being moved around and if we are going to have food and drinks whos going to get it there? Didn't someone say they might be able to get stuff donated? What about the "peace" aspect of the concert, is there going to be literature handed out at the show? How will "peace" be marketed at the concert? Any speeches?

5. Clean-up after the show. Volunteers?

i volunteer....we need at least 5.......ill send a sepreate email an u guys respond please

Again I can volunteer for this. Unfortunately with not having a car I can't bring cleaning stuff (mops, brooms etc) Does anyone know if they have that stuff at Cafe Alternatif? I can bring some garbage bags.

6. Shifts at the door, selling tickets, welcoming people and keeping safeguarding the money. Volunteers?

there will be two, two hour shifts....we need 2 at door for tickets.....with one securiy person....we need 2 at coat check..more info later

Not trying to discriminate but I think with safeguarding money or security people with size would be preferred. What do you think? I don't fit in that catagory unless you include my rear end in the equation.

7. Media spokespersons for interviews. Two people

would be needed who are well-spoken. Volunteers?

i volunteer,....we need one more person

This will need to be done by another high school student obviously

8. Volunteers to help with publicity. That should be

all of you...posters, leaflets, word-of-mouth.

like i said eralier......we need all around ottawa

I'll do what I can. Is the posters been confirmed???

9. 'Security' - how will this be addressed? Any

suggestions? Any volunteers?

As I have suggested repeated times we need people to sign up for this. Maybe getting people to agree to wear a certain color (white t-shirt) or a white arm band might be helpful to distingish them. I would rather not put myself in that position.

10. And of course we need people to show up.
I don't have email access on weekends so anyone can
feel free to call me at home...523-1077.

I just want to add that CPI has offered assistance in any way we can but OSAW made it clear that you wanted us to be more of an outlet tool rather than an organizing tool. We are trying to offer support anyway we can but frankly I personally was under the impression that OSAW wanted to do much of the preparation and planning yourselves. I've tried to offer the knowledge where I can but it can only go so far when we aren't the ones organizing the event.
 
I hope that more students will step up to the plate to plan the event that many of you have so far contributed to. I would stress that I would seriously consider whether the responsibilities that have been outlined can be done before going ahead with the concert. Its less than 7 days away. Otherwise I hate to say this but if people don't make some commitments soon it may be better to just cancel it. I think Shahnaz has done a fabolous job trying to co-ordinate the event but it will need more than her to organize it. The rehearsals still have yet to be addressed what time and where those are going to take place or if the bands should just show up to the gig.

Erica

thanks,

need 2 go...babysit...bye

mick
--- Gwen wrote:
> Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 21:20:51 -0400
> From: Gwen
> Subject: Re: [Oosaw-eoocg] Posters- One Last Time
>
> Wow Michael, you're a really great artist! I like
> the first one best.
>
> Gwen
>
> Michael DeForge wrote:
> > Looks like the list serve is, finally, up and
> running again.
> >
> > Anyway, all the posters (they could be final
> drafts, but I can still change
> > anything you want on them) are available on the
> internet:
> >
> >
>
> >
>
>
> >
> >
>
>
> >
> >
> > Here's hoping this works.
> >
> >
>
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